1914 D penny

I just inherited a small coin collection from a relative which has re-sparked my interest in collecting. I have been doing some research and think that this particular coin might be worth more than a few dollars compared to many of the hundreds of wheat backs in this lot.
What do you think?

 

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I think you just might have something.

Please don't touch any of the coins, and please don't try to clean them.

Can you tell us any more about were they came from, or the person that collected them?

 

I hope I'm wrong, and I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but neither the shape of the "4" nor the position of the mint mark look like the authentic 1914-D cents I've seen.

You can also check for a very small "V.D.B." on Lincoln's shoulder where it meets the edge of the coin. If it's there, it's definitely not a 1914-D. In any case, I'd like to see a closer picture of the date and mint mark.

 

As I posted

 

Ziggy29 is right!
The nine is also wrong, its open wheras the 9 in the real thing is nearly closed. The 4 should be narrower and shorter with slighter wider type width, the "1" in to the "14" should be the same height as the 1 in 19. In the image, the 1 in "14" is taller than the 1 in "19".

Here is another obvious fake:
Not only will it stick to a magnet but it has been plated.


These images were done in photoshop, beware of e-bay photos that have been altered. Thought Id just post this to see how quickly a fake can be spotted. I am glad to see that it only took 2 posts. I apologize for any confusion. Just beware of digital photos on ebay!

 

Unfortunately, I guess we need to be aware of more than just eBay scammers.

 

Is it just me, but I can't see the pics.

 

I think the pics were removed once it was established that it was a fake. It would be helpful to have the pics still available, though.

 

Yes, I for one am always looking to learn these things. It would be of help to others also, I'm sure.

 

For what it's worth, here's an authentic 1914-D cent. Note the date style.



Many fake 1914-D cents come from altering 1944-D cents. There are several easy "tells" for spotting it:

1. The altered '44-D will have "V.D.B." on Lincoln's shoulder. The genuine 1914-D does not, as these initials were restored to the coin in 1918.

2. The "4" will be too short and fat; the "4" in an authentic 1914-D cent is taller and leaner.

3. There will be an unusually large gap between the "9" and the second "1" in an altered 1944-D cent. You can visualize this by imagining a 1944-D cent without the diagonal and horizontal line components of the first number "4" and leaving only the vertical bar from the number in place.

Here is an example of an altered 1944-D:



Unfortunately, not all fake '14-D cents are this easy to spot. One can add a mintmark to a 1914 Philadelphia cent. Here the best defense is to know the style and location of the "D" mintmark on an authentic piece, to look for "seams" between the mintmark and the surrounding field under high magnification (to look for an added mintmark) and to look at the edge near the mintmark to look for signs that no hole was bored into the side of the coin in order to "emboss" a D mint mark from underneath the coin.

 

Excellent, Thank you.

 

Very informative, Ziggy. Thank you.

 

Great job Ziggy !!!!

 

Well I have one thing to add to this topic

I had a FAKE 1914-P --it did NOT have the VDB on the shoulder.

It must have been made by some geek that wanted to see if he could do it so he tried and when he messed up a little on that date and made a deep nick he must have given up.

He must have also taken off the VDB or else it was from another date.

I got it as a real 1914-P but after it turned out it to be a fake, I sold it for 14x more then I paid for it! (I paid $0.27)

Speedy

 

There was no VDB on the shoulder of the 1914 cent, the VDB was on the reverse of a limited number of 1909 cents and was not on any cents from 1910 to 1918 when it was retored on the obverse on the shoulder in very small letters, this whole thing was caused by the size of the designers initials on the reverse.some thought they were too large.

 

I hate to resurrect ancient threads but based off of the date/mintmark alone, what would you say about the plausibility of this cent? This is the only pic I have right now but if I can get somemore sent from home, I'll update you. thanks for the help Lincoln kings

:hug:

 

I would bet that it is fake.....the one looks like it has been played with....I'm not sure as I'm not looking at my 1914-D right now but I'm pretty sure this is a fake.

Speedy

 

Other than date malformations mentioned earlier in this forum, and the presence/non-presence of VDB, what leads you to that. The pic may be misleading. Under regular light it is a very brown coin. the golden color is form the lighting the used to take a close up, I imagine the flash. Help me out Speedy, lol my brother really wants this to be the coin lol

 

The D looks fine....I would say that the date was changed...the one looks like it was changed the most down at the bottom--see how it gets thiner...also the 4 might be changed...
If you want to be sure send it to one of the grading companies!

Speedy