Diocletian Carthage mint

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by GerardV, Oct 15, 2017.

  1. GerardV

    GerardV Well-Known Member

    Picked this up last week and can't wait for it to arrive (tracking says tomorrow). Like most of my purchases, it caught my eye and that was it...I had to try and get it. This is the sellers picture and Lord knows it's better than I can do.

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    Diocletian. AD 284-305.
    Æ Follis, 28mm, 10.2g, 6h; Carthage mint, 1st officina. Struck circa AD 299-303.
    Obv.: IMP DIOCLETIANVS P F AVG; Laureate head right.
    Rev.: SALVIS AVGG ET CAESS FEL KART; Carthage standing facing, holding fruits in both hands // A
    Reference:RIC VI 31a.
     
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  3. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    You have good taste in dealers. :p
     
  4. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    Hey, that guy is my dealer also.

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  5. ValiantKnight

    ValiantKnight Well-Known Member

    I feel that most of us have at least one coin from JA lol
     
  6. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    This type references the victory of Maximianus over the Quinquegentiani (a rebellious tribe in North Africa) and his triumph and actual presence in Carthage.

    I have one example with much of the original silvering remaining

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    and the companion coin-

    Diocletian
    A.D. 297- 298
    27x29mm 8.2gm
    IMP DIOCLETIANVS PF AVG; laureate bust right.
    FELIX ADVENT AVGG NN; Africa standing facing, head left, in long drapery with elephant- skin head-dress, right holding standard, left tusk, at feet to left lion with captured bull, in right field I.
    In ex. PKA
    RIC VI Carthage 25a

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  7. Smojo

    Smojo dreamliner

    Atleast a dozen or so, maybe more.

    Since the OP is Diocletian I'll add one. Not a good pic but it's the only one I have photographs of right now, (way behind lifes been busy) It'll take a year to get caught up.
    20170817_194449.jpg and from JA
     
  8. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    Sweet coin @GerardV ! Lots of my coins come from JAZ Numismatics. Great guy and dealer!
     
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  9. GerardV

    GerardV Well-Known Member

    Yes, yes I do. @Valentinian is another one of my "dealers" and you can both thank the people here for getting me hooked.
     
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  10. GerardV

    GerardV Well-Known Member

    Thank you..and yes he is. Seems like all my coins were gifted from @Deacon Ray or @jamesicus or were purchased from JAZ, Augustuscoins.com or Vcoins.

    @Victor_Clark is another dealer on CT who I will buy from and I have one of @Wayne G. Sayles books that Deacon Ray gave me. We're loaded with "enablers" here.
     
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  11. Youngcoin

    Youngcoin Everything Collector

    Nice coin!
     
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  12. LaCointessa

    LaCointessa Well-Known Member

    Me too! It's a great 'dealer' who will hook you up on a Sunday afternoon!
     
  13. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    That's a lovely coin with a lot of historical interest.
     
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  14. GerardV

    GerardV Well-Known Member

    Thanks - I can't wait for it to get here and hope I didn't jinx it by posting before it arrives.
     
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  15. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Nice coin, Gerard. I like these Carthage mint issues of the Tetrarchy.
    I don't often post before receiving, but in the spirit of CT solidarity, I'll stand with you against the dreaded postal jinx. The Carthage coin below that I'm waiting on is the matching Maximianus to the Diocletian posted by Victor.

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    MAXIMIANUS
    AE Follis. Carthage mint, AD 297. RIC VI 21b. O: IMP MAXIMIANVS P F AVG, laureate head right. R: FELIX AD-VENT AVGG N N, Africa standing left, holding standard in right hand, tusk in left, lion at feet left; B in left field, PKS in exergue.
    Ex Dattari Collection
     
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  16. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

    Here's my Constantine example of the OP type:
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    Carthage mint, A.D. 306
    RIC 51c
    Obv: FL VAL CONSTANTINVS NOB CAES
    Rev: SALVIS AVGG ET CAESS FEL KART - Carthago, in long robe, standing, facing left, holding fruit in both hands
    Γ in exergue; H in left field
    27 mm, 11.0 g.
     
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  17. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

  18. GerardV

    GerardV Well-Known Member

    This is really good stuff. Hopefully, people keep posting them.
     
  19. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Wow, nice coin @GerardV ! So interesting about the reverse:
    For me, I collect and enjoy REPUBLICAN Roman history. Carthage by the time of your coin is purely a ROMAN City. In 146 BCE Rome defeated Carthage in the Third and Final Punic War... they completely obliterated the City, killed most of its population with the rest going into slavery, and rendered Carthage EXTINCT as an entity. It was maybe 50 to 100 years later that they began re-colonizing the Carthage City area...

    Below is a link... but this paragraph sums it up from Wikipedia:

    Aftermath
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    Ruins of Carthage
    Many Carthaginians died from starvation during the later part of the siege, while many others died in the final six days of fighting. When the war ended, the remaining 50,000 Carthaginians, a small part of the original pre-war population, were sold into slavery by the victors.[4] Carthage was systematically burned for 17 days; the city's walls and buildings were utterly destroyed. The remaining Carthaginian territories were annexed by Rome and reconstituted to become the Roman province of Africa.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Punic_War

    Oooops... Forgot my Diocletians:

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    RI Diocletian 284-305 CE AE Folles VOT XX

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    RI Diocletian Ӕ Quinarius 1.46g 16mm Rome AD 284-305 IOVI CONSERVAT AVGG, Jupiter stndng thunderbolt sceptre RARE RIC 193
     
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  20. GerardV

    GerardV Well-Known Member

    I like the old history better that claimed the Romans salted the earth out of pure spite. :wideyed:

    It might be 19th century addition, but I like it!
     
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