Help With Constantine

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by nameless, Oct 12, 2017.

  1. LaCointessa

    LaCointessa Well-Known Member

    @nameless, when @dougsmit wrote: "Too bad they didn't have reverses and had to stand on end." I bet it means you should rotate your images so that they are not sideways when posted. :) And don't forget the "BC" coin! I'm waiting to see that one. Is that one of these keepers?
     
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  3. nameless

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    Sorry if I sound ignorant but my two Shekels would be BC no? Let's see what else is here. Supposedly the coin on the left could potentially be Phillip II with the metal being Orichalcum. The coin on the right came from a flip that says Alexander II of Macedon. Here's some pics. I think these two are BC.

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    One looks like a cat the other a horse. Any ideas?


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  4. LaCointessa

    LaCointessa Well-Known Member

    Oh, I am certainly no expert on what's BC or not. I was referring to the coin we discussed when you first posted on another thread and there was a coin in a flip that referred to a BC coin around 400-500, something like that. I couldn't see the coin because it was in the flip so I don't know which coin that was. Is this the one? Oh yes, I see the flip in the corner of your photograph. Thanks.

    P.S. That on one the left in your last photo posted somehow reminds me of Romulus and Remus feeding at the she-wolf, but you can't go by me. I'll go back and reread your thread to see if these have already been discussed.
     
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  5. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    regarding the ID of the originally posted coin, it is actually RIC VII Rome 232. The difference between 232 and 237 is the wreath. I think that Bruun may have over-complicated this a little and I usually ID these coins as Rome 232/237.

    He was trying to separate issues struck before and after the dies imperii of the Caesars- VOT V first and then VOT X after. He thought that plain wreaths were used while the Caesars had VOT V types and decorated wreaths when VOT X was struck.

    So the difference in the wreaths is undecorated versus decorated. All wreaths have some sort of a badge at the top, but decorated have additional decorations at 3 and 9 o'clock.

    below is an illustration from Constantinian Mint Policy illustrating decorated wreath types (RIC 237)

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  6. Ajax

    Ajax Well-Known Member

    I was a bit confused by that as they looked identical. Good to see you posting again Victor.
     
  7. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    Yes, this is one of the (more) confusing issues in RIC VII, which is why I usually catalogue these as 232/237...and thanks, it is good to be back.
     
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  8. nameless

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    This stuff is fascinating. I'm enjoying the discussion here guys.


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