Bill Collectors! Look out for this new error!

Discussion in 'Paper Money' started by SorenCoins, Oct 14, 2017.

  1. SorenCoins

    SorenCoins Well-Known Member

    I by no means am knowledged in bills, or bill errors. I am however a member of the ANA and while reading this month's edition of The Numismatist I was intrigued to see an interesting article. I wanted to share this with any of you who aren't members of the ANA (which I highly recommend) so you can look out for this. Here is a breef summary An employee at Coors Field in Denver noticed this bill while counting change. Now according to Frederick J. Bart this error is a large examining print equipment (LEPE) press setup error. The LEPE was used on 2013s and made them in print sizes of 50 bills a sheet, so 50 may exist. Not only is this bill featuring mismatched serial numbers (B 557|9394 E and B55069394 E) but it is also missing a digit. The new pressing setup used 12 positions, rather than 10. 1 is rectangular and is blank not intended to hit the paper. But apparently the rectangular picked up the ink and hit the paper. Because they were printed in sheets of 50, 50 of these exist theoretically. Now hopefully, these all made their way to Denver (I live right outside of Denver :rolleyes:) and some people can find em. Now a lot of this is confusing to me as I am not knowledged on paper money but many of you probably know all about this. Just thought it was interesting!
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  3. Youngcoin

    Youngcoin Everything Collector

    Wow nice! Thanks!
     
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  4. sakata

    sakata Devil's Advocate

    I don't think you are allowed to post copyrighted materials.
     
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  5. Youngcoin

    Youngcoin Everything Collector


    Well he is just sharing the information he learned from a source in his own words I don't think he copied and pasted it but maybe so.
     
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  6. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    He credited the source.
     
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  7. jtlee321

    jtlee321 Well-Known Member

    He credited the source, the original image was for informational purposes and he is using it for information purposes as well. I seriously doubt Numismatist will get on him about it. Now had he copied and pasted the entire article word for word and claimed it as his own the there would be a problem.
     
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  8. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

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  9. SteveInTampa

    SteveInTampa Always Learning

    To me, what makes this error remarkable is it’s on a series 2013 note.

    Typically, most paper money errors occurred during the 70’s, 80’s and 90’s. I’m not saying the BEP is now perfect, but you see far less error notes these days then in yesteryears.
     
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  10. thedredge

    thedredge Active Member

    That is a cool error. I have seen prefix and number errors but have never seen a block like that, I like it!!!! Wish you luck in obtaining one for yourself.
     
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  11. SorenCoins

    SorenCoins Well-Known Member

    Thanks everyone! I will keep my eyes peeled and you all should too. I highly doubt all 50 from Texas came just to Denver, I am sure you guys have a chance!

    And yes I cited my source properly by showing the copyright.

    Huge thanks to @NOS for fixing my grammar up a bit making it a bit easier for you all to understand:

    I by no means am knowledgeable in bills, or bill errors. I am, however, a member of the ANA. While reading this month's edition of The Numismatist I was intrigued to see an interesting article. I wanted to share this with any of you who aren't members of the ANA (which I highly recommend joining) so you can look out for this.

    Here is a brief summary. An employee at Coors Field in Denver noticed this bill while counting change. Now according to Frederick J. Bart, this error is a large examining print equipment (LEPE) press setup error. The LEPE was used on 2013s and made them in print sizes of 50 bills a sheet, so 50 may exist. Not only is this bill featuring mismatched serial numbers (B 557|9394 E and B55069394 E) but it is also missing a digit.

    The new pressing setup uses 12 positions, rather than 10. One is rectangular as well as blank and is not intended to hit the paper. But apparently the rectangular picked up the ink and hit the paper. Because they were printed in sheets of 50, at least 50 of these exist theoretically. Now hopefully, these all made their way to Denver (I live right outside of Denver :rolleyes:) and some people can find em.

    Now, a lot of this is confusing to me as I am not knowledgeable in paper money but many of you probably know all about this. Just thought it was interesting!
     
  12. Numbers

    Numbers Senior Member

    That bit doesn't sound right. If something went wrong with the numbering head, it wouldn't affect the other 49 positions of the sheet (just like it didn't affect the other serial number on this note). On the other hand, it likely *would* affect other notes printed in the same *position* of other sheets, since those would be serialled from the same numbering head.

    Sadly, that doesn't give us any information about how many more errors might exist; it'd depend on how long the malfunctioning numbering head went on glitching like that before the BEP noticed it and fixed it, and how many of the resulting misprinted notes they caught and replaced by stars.
     
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  13. SorenCoins

    SorenCoins Well-Known Member

    Honestly I have no idea. The article talked about the possibility of there being 50 because they were in sheets of 50, but I am no expert on printing setups.
     
  14. Broken-Coin

    Broken-Coin New Member

    When I viewed this post I decided to join and share with you what I shared with CoinWorld on their online comment section.
    As someone that searches eBay's Global Site's for Errors not listed here in the United States, when CoinWorld broke the story on this being a new type of mismatched Serial Numbers Error with the Green Box in place of the digital, I posted that I've seen this type before on Pakistan Notes... I included a photo of the error note and that Pakistan also skip-number's in increments of 100, the same as the new series 2013 $1 Notes...
    I then contacted the seller in Pakistan and purchased this note... Upon receiving the Note, I verified that this type of Error predated Bart's Error by at least a year.
    Being new to this site, I'm not sure how my posting Photos is going to turn out, gonna try my post on CoinWorld's website & the Error Note itself.
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  15. Broken-Coin

    Broken-Coin New Member

    I purchased this Error Note to go with the 2 Pakistan double Serial Numbers Error Notes I purchased back in 2007.
    (edited) I didn't realize when posting the photos I was using my new Twitter account Photos with my PMG comments.
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  16. kookoox10

    kookoox10 ANA #3168546

    That's remarkable, a double impression serial # on a US note is stunning to say the least.
     
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  17. Broken-Coin

    Broken-Coin New Member

    I hang out on CCF and just testing the waters here.
    I've been in Numismatic's since the 1960's and spent the last 20 years focused on Global Errors.
    If any members here collect Natick & Web-Press Overprint Errors, I'm in the process of posting my revised Serial Numbers Census for others to copy on CCF.
    FYI ~ 3 of the Natick Serial Numbers listed in Bart's Published Census is wrong (off by 20,000 Sheets in a 40K Run) and my Census will show these to be not as rare as once believed.
    Below is my older Natick Overprint Error Census showing COPE assigned Serial Numbers on 12 of the 19 Sheet Numbers printed on the right side of the Sheets.
    My revised Census should be more Printer Friendly, and the primary reason for sharing my personal Census with others is all the misinformation on eBay from sellers with false claims on the number of known Overprint Error Notes printed on Natick Test Paper.
    I will go into detail of how I reached my conclusions in the Census itself, and request others to post their Natick Notes on the same Census Results Thread.
     

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  18. SorenCoins

    SorenCoins Well-Known Member

    Wow that is a remarkable note! Very interesting. I wonder if they are on any other countries.
     
  19. SorenCoins

    SorenCoins Well-Known Member

    But for sure United States and Pakistan.
    @kookoox10 you should make a video on this!
     
  20. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    That SN looks like 1520666
    and the grading co has it as 1620666.
     
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