What's the front say?

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  1. nameless

    nameless Member

    I looked for M on vcoins and this is a Byzantine coin for sure from what I can tell.?Can anyone help me with the front?
    Thanks!
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  3. David@PCC

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  4. nameless

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  5. arnoldoe

    arnoldoe Well-Known Member

    It is the same emperor ;)
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    Heraclius. 610-641. Æ Follis. Constantinople mint. Dated RY 3 (612/13).
    Obverse: Crowned and cuirassed facing bust, holding globus cruciger and shield
    Reverse: Large M; cross above, date across fields, D/CON.
    References: DOC I 71c; MIB II 158; SB 804.
    https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=111951



    and your coin was over-struck on a follis of Phocas

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    You can see one of the X's under the face of Heraclius on the obverse of your coin
     
  6. nameless

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    Thanks for the info! What is the Γ under the M?
     
  7. nameless

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    Why would the coin have been over struck?
     
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  9. nameless

    nameless Member

    I can make out the "I" in the year but not much more.
     
  10. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

    Byzantine coins were routinely overstruck on coins of earlier emperors. When a new emperor assumed the puyrple, he frequently recalled coins from the previous emperor and had his name and image stamped on them. Often the restrike would fail to obliterate elements of the original coin, and some of the lettering or image from the earlier coin appears on the restrike. It can create quite a mess for someone trying the figure out what's going on.

    I think the "r" on your coin may actually be a weakly struck "C" for "CON", indicating that you coin was struck (or actually, restruck) in Constantinople.
     
  11. nameless

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    Thanks for the explanation! This appears to be very common then. I gave this coin to coworker for his sons collection so I was trying to get the story. Thanks!


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  12. dougsmit

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    If you rotate the reverse so the top of the M points left, you can see the top of Focas' head just above the now sideways M and the letters PER from his undertype legend. PER refers to 'Perpetual' or Emperor forever and was used by more than one ruler.
     
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  13. arnoldoe

    arnoldoe Well-Known Member

    The Γ under the M is the mint mark, meaning it was struck at the 3rd officina of Constantinople.
     
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