Mexico 1948 5 Pesos - Obverse Die Clash or PMD?

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by stldanceartist, Oct 13, 2017.

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What's going on with Cuauhtemoc's Face?

  1. PMD

    57.1%
  2. Die Clash

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  3. Struck Through Error

    14.3%
  4. You Should See The Other Guy

    28.6%
  5. Awkward Teen Years

    28.6%
  6. Battle Scars

    28.6%
  7. I Really, REALLY Regret Getting Those Facial Tattoos When I Was Sixteen

    14.3%
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  1. stldanceartist

    stldanceartist Minister of Silly Walks

    Well, just picked up this pretty decent looking Mexico 1948 5 Pesos. Lovely large silver 90% coin...and then as I was taking a closer look, I notice - something's not right. Something going on with his face. Something...either really cool, or really disappointing.

    Well, let's take a look (I've used a 2000 pixel tall image, larger than normal, so people can see more detail.)

    Mexico - 1948 5 Pesos (2000).jpg

    One thing I'll note is that the reverse looks like it was struck with a very pitted/rusty die (either that or it's a counterfeit and those are tiny casting bubbles. I doubt that option, as the coin is non-magnetic and weighs exactly 30.0 grams.) Hey, it gives it character, right?

    Back to the obverse. There are a few hits in the field in front of the portrait. With a closeup of his cheek, we see a smooth, oval depression with three raised arrowhead/triangular shapes coming out of them:

    Mexico - 1948 5 Pesos - Face.jpg

    It looks like a Stegosaurus Tail along the front edge of his cheekbone. Once I zoom out, you will see a similar shaped depression/mark on his neck in front of the earpiece/earring:

    Mexico - 1948 5 Pesos - Face 2.jpg

    So, my question is: What caused this? Some sort of struck through or die clash error? Someone decided to hit it with a toothed punch?

    The first one (cheek) slightly resembles the triangular feathers of the eagle on the reverse, but the second one doesn't (not really, anyway.)

    Let's hear what you have to say.
     
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  3. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    I suspect they are reeding marks from the edges of other coins. If you only have the one , measure the distance between 2 and compare with the rim. Jim
     
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  4. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    I don't see how a die clash would happen on the sunken in parts of the die. Looks like PMD
     
  5. stldanceartist

    stldanceartist Minister of Silly Walks

    Kind of what I was thinking so far (I just found the shape of the area in question to be very interesting and something I hadn't quite seen before.) Annnnd I edited the thread title to erase a typo. Thanks for the comments.
     
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