1837 Feuchtwanger cent opinions wanted

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  1. easj3699

    easj3699 Well-Known Member

    I've seen these coins every now and then but never paid much attention to them. This particular one was shown to me today. I went to Ebay for sold prices and it's all over the place. Was wondering if anybody knows these coins and can give me a round about opinion on price. I know my photos aren't great, I apologize. Thank you. 100_5438.JPG 100_5437.JPG
     
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  3. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Can't tell you anything about prices, but I can say that this is variety 4-E and it is an R-3 coin.
     
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  4. TheFinn

    TheFinn Well-Known Member

    You can find them in the Red Book. There is info there, but they were a copper-nickel token that Mr. Feuchtwanger had made, and he wanted to sell the alloy rights to the U.S. Government as a replacement for the large copper Cents. There is a 3-cent variety that is much rarer. These seem to run in the $150 range retail.
     
  5. easj3699

    easj3699 Well-Known Member

    I was thinking about $150 as well in this condition going off of eBay. Seller is asking $125. Think I might have to pick it up. Thank you both.
     
  6. thebeav

    thebeav Lifer

    The one you picture has been harshly cleaned. No where near a 150 dollar coin however.
     
  7. easj3699

    easj3699 Well-Known Member

    What do you see that I don't? Or the dirt in the crevices and none in the fields?
     
  8. Dougmeister

    Dougmeister Well-Known Member

    Plus hairlines (or worse) on the reverse, IMHO.

    And realize that these were known for their weak strikes.
     
  9. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    Look especially around the date, where the crud buildup is so thick that the lack of it elsewhere tends to indicate it has to have been cleaned in the past.

    This is an issue I've been looking for casually for many years without finding the right coin. Values vary as widely as strike quality - the people seeking them understand this, which is why prices tend to track quality moreso than many issues - and examples with well-struck bodies tend to go high.

    I am planning to spend around $250 for the right one, and for that I expect a nice original AU. A budget of $150 should net you a nice VF/decent XF example. There are varieties described, some of which are rarer than others and affect value. This is my attribution aid for them:

    http://www.novanumismatics.com/numi...composition-cent-attribution-die-marriages-2/

    They aren't all that rare, but are uncommon in well-preserved condition, requiring patience.
     
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  10. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    I agree with the cleaned comments. The reverse is especially troubling.

    One of the best free resources for collectors is the Heritage prices realized archives. Last December, two NGC 58s sold for around $250. Last September, a nice XF for $140. This, along with PCGS CoinFacts (in which I couldn't find the Feuchtwanger coins), are my first go-to sites when researching what I should pay for a coin.
     
  11. benveniste

    benveniste Type Type

    According to my records, I spent $144 for mine (NGC XF45). It also shows some scratches on the reverse:

    1837Feutchwanger1cObv.jpg 1837Feutchwanger1cRev.jpg
     
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