Can you guys help me grade this coin??

Found this little baby in circulation today. It's copper clad (I didn't mess with the scan color, so it should still look like nickel).

My question is, to net a P01, I though the date needs to be recognizable. How does one grade a coin like this?

Just something to take people's minds off the American/Foriegn Coins debate.

 

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I think you would just call it culled.

 

Wow! I have never seen a Kennedy that worn!

 

Oh dat dere iz a schweet AU-58...a slider if you will, as in "It'll slide right outta yer hands it's so smooth!"

 

Ahhh, the good old SGS grading scale.

 

I would call that somebody's "lucky" pocket piece.
Problem is they were mugged in an alley, coin stolen and used in part to buy a bottle of cheap hooch.
Not so lucky after all.

 

Very Possibly--
have it checked out it may be a 'set up strike'.
How is the wear on the rim?
If also equally worn then it may just be the world's worse JFK.

 

It's all wear and tear. Don't know how best to explain it, but the dirt, the lack of a raised rim, the look of the edge, the feel of it all shouts wear and tear.

This is the second one I've found with this much wear (although it's possible that it's the same coin with the amount I go through every week).

 

Look like it was put on the wheel of coin sanding

 

I know it sounds silly but I would get it graded. If you can get that baby in a slab graded PO-1 then I think you could sell it for some nice bucks!

Speedy

 

But for that, it would need an identifiable date/mint mark, would it not?

 

nope---here are some guidelines...

Speedy

 

I can see the eBay Auction listing saying "Rare No Date, No Nothing Half Dollar"! Heck, it's no worse than some I have seen!


Frank

 

OK, just to entertain the thought here of a weak strike, what would be some of the details to look for (or rather verify are missing as a result of a weak strike).

Usually worn spots do not add up to the details that are lost with a weak strike, but I'm having a hard time finding pictures of Weak Strike Kennedies to compare against (at least ones that aren't questionable listings on ebay).

The one weak strike that I've found in the past was a little easier to spot as it was uncirculated and had a prooflike ghost appearance to it. I'm going to pull it out this weekend to try to compare it to this one.

 

I don't think the grading companies will grade a coin without the date, unless some characteristic of the coin identifies the piece without the date, like the high relief and reverse rays of a 1921 Peace Dollar.

I think they send it back saying that it's not identifiable.

 

May be a counterfit

I have a washington quarter that is similar to that coin and I think mine is made of aluminum to pass in change and mechanical vending machines. I think the makers figured that they could pound out enough of the slugs with partial obvs & revs and get away with hardly anyone noticing them. Certainly most people would just pass it on to some vendor or anyone else without thinking much of it.
What does your coin weigh compared to a fully struck Kennedy 1/2$ of the same year? Drop it on a hard surface and compare the sound to a real Kennedy 1/2$.
Not all counterfits are rare coins. Some are for pocket change and just because they can do it.
Bruce

 

Oh, yeah! Sorry, No year. That makes it more likely it is a "slug" and there was never a date or many other details to start with.

 

I can solve 25% of the mystery. The date ends in a '4'

 

There's a '9'.

Now, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the number preceeding the '9' might, MIGHT be a '1'.

One number to go, and you might make that AG-3

 

Really? Is this new or just something that I've missed?

Speedy