Huge Maximian portrait upgrade

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Sallent, Oct 7, 2017.

  1. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    With this beauty, I think I'm done with Maximian. It's hard to improve on this portrait...might not even be worth trying.

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    Maximianus
    AE Follis. Rome.
    300-301 CE
    8.86g, 28.15 mm
    IMP C MAXIMIANVS PF AVG, laureate head right / SACRA MON VRB AVGG ET CAESS NOSTR, Moneta standing left, holding scales and cornucopiae. Mintmark S-club. RIC VI Rome 100b; Sear 13292.
    Note: Gloss black patina.

    This is one fairly rare beauty with an S and Club of Hercules mint mark. I couldn't even find one on record with CNG, and very few images online. The dealer misatributed this coin to another mint, but I was able to find a sample (not as good) on wildwinds.com and went from there.

    Tell me if this isn't a huge upgrade for me. Here is my other Maximian.

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    Maximianus, First reign, 286-305.
    AE Antoninianus
    Lugdunum, 287-289.
    IMP C MAXIMIANVS P F AVG Radiate, draped and cuirassed bust of Maximian to right.
    Rev. VIRTVTI AVGG Hercules standing right, strangling the Nemean lion; at his feet to left, club.
    Lyon 213. RIC V, 454.

    You be the judge of that. I wasn't looking for another Moneta...but the portrait screamed "Don't pass me up! Buy me!" And you know what they say, when a coin calls out at you, it's foolish to pass on it. And hey, this Moneta reverse is not too shabby either.

    I think this is the type of coin that even if I wasn't a fan of LRBs I would have still been drawn to it and gotten it. In many ways it channels the beauty of earlier coinage.

    PS: Here is the wildwinds example. A very sharp portrait too if you ask me, though I think mine has slightly more attractive style (at least in my opinion).

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    Let's see your sweet Maximians.
     
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  3. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    A killer upgrade!

    I have a couple, but this one is my favorite. A generous gift from @jamesicus


    Carausius for Maximian.
    AE Antoninainus.
    5.24 gm.
    IMG_2975.JPG
    Radiate and cuirassed bust of Maximian facing right; IMP MAXIMIANVS P F AVG/ Pax standing left holding sceptre and branch S left P right; PAX AVGGG. MLXXI in exergue.

    V2 London 34

    The three G's in AVGGG represented Carausius, Diocletian and Maximianus as part of an attempt by Carausius to become equal in power with Diocletian and Maximianus, which failed.
     
  4. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    I found 3 on vcoins.com. They are all rough and beat up. Here is a $55 one on vcoins...which is the best one there as far as condition.

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    And mine which cost me $80

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    I think it was worth the extra $25 over the vcoins offering. Personally, I think I made out like a bandit. Either way, it was worth it to me, which is all that matters.

    Sorry for the lack of humility, but I guess I'm pretty excited over my score. The high hasn't worn off. Can't help the ego trip.
     
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  5. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Nice portrait but hardly an upgrade on the pre-reform coin. It is like apples and oranges. You need both. I don't have the Max but do have the Diocletian and Galerius from the set. There have been several of these in the trade lately. Hoard???
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  6. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Excellent portrait on the new coin! I've always liked Maximianus and have one on the way that I'm really looking forward to receiving.

    I like his pug-nosed visage on this Hercvli Victori follis of Alexandria.
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    There are some nice portraits of his on pre-reform antoniniani as well.
    Maximianus - Ant Iovi SXXIT 2068.jpg

    And how can you do without a military bust of the quintessential military emperor?
    Maximianus - Military Bust PAX.jpg
     
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  7. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Sharp details on the newest follis @Sallent...and at a attractive price!!

    The varieties posted make it easy to see why that era almost certainly will be one of my focus points in the future. Wonderful posts guys!!!

    I only wish the reverse was as nice as the obverse on mine.

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  8. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Very nice, @Sallent ! Here's my most attractive Maximian:
    Maximian CONCORDIA MILITVM antoninianus.jpg
     
  9. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

  10. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    My only:

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    RI MAXIMIANUS HERCULIUS 286-305 CE antoninianus Antioch 292-295 CE CONCORDIA MILITVM Jupiter H-officina 8
     
  11. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    I never get tired of these pre-reform CONCORDIA MILITVM issues. You might be interested in this paper on them. Yours is type 19 according to the author's classification scheme.
     
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  12. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Thank you. I really enjoy this coin also. Thanks for the Paper...
     
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  13. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Here's my Maximian follis and great coin @Sallent . Also have a radiate (not posted here).

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  14. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Nice additions, mine may look familiar to you ;)

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    Maximianus (286 - 305, 306 - 308, and 310 A.D)
    Ӕ Antoninianus
    O: IMP C M A MAXIMIANVS AVG , radiate , draped bust right .
    R: CONCORDIA MILITVM, Maximianus standing right holding sceptre, receiving Victory on globe from Jupiter standing left, holding long sceptre, Epsilon in lower centre. •XXI• in ex .
    Heraclea mint, 293 A.D.
    21mm
    4.8g
    RIC V 607 E, Cohen 53


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    Maximianus, (286 - 305 A.D.)
    Potin Tetradrachm
    O: A K M OVA MAΞIMIANOC CEB; Laureate, draped, cuirassed bust right, seen from behind
    R: Nike advancing right, palm in left hand over shoulder, wreath upward in right; L / Γ across fields.
    Alexandria mint, AD 287/288
    22mm
    8.15g
    Emmett 4147, p.212
     
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  15. Youngcoin

    Youngcoin Everything Collector

    Wow that's amazing here's mine! 20170924_121235.jpg 20170924_121246.jpg

    Thanks,
    Jacob

    Sorry for bad pics.
     
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  16. Svarog

    Svarog Well-Known Member

    Great pics everyone, here is mine: FullSizeRender-1.jpg
     
  17. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Roll-Velez attributes this type with the •XXI• exergue to Heraclea. See #14, here.
     
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  18. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    A pretty nice score you got there @Sallent but I have to agree with Doug : you will have to keep both as one is pre and the other post reform

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    Maximianus, Follis Antioch mint, 3rd officina, AD 298
    IMP C MA MAXIMIANS P F AVG, Laureate bust of Maximianus right
    GENIO POPVLI ROMANI, Genius standing left, ANT at exergue, two stars, cressent and Γ in field
    10.78 gr
    Ref : Cohen #184, RCV # 13273 (80), RIC VI # 50b


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    Maximianus, Follis Aquilea mint, 1st officina, AD 301
    IMP MAXIMIANVS PF AVG, Laureate head of Maximianus right
    SACRA MONET AVGG ET CAESS NOSTR, Moneta standing left, holding cornucopia and scales. AQP at exergue, V in right field
    10.35 gr
    Ref :RCV # 13300 (100), Cohen #504, RIC VI # 29b


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    Maximianus, Abdication Follis Serdica mint, 1st officina, AD 305-306
    DN MAXIMIANO FELICISSIMO SEN AVG, laureate bust right, wearing imperial mantle, holding mappa and olive branch
    PROVIDENTIA DEORVM QUIES AVGG, Quies and Providentia, facing each other, S | F in field, .SM.SD. at exergue, officina A
    10,70 gr
    Ref : Cohen #489, RCV # 13408 (220), RIC VI # 15b


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  19. akeady

    akeady Well-Known Member

    I bought this one accidentally - clicked on "Bid" on my 'phone when trying to stop it sliding off something during an Artemide Live Auction. RIC 31b Ticinum - it's more green and brighter in reality and I was happy enough with it as it's my only Maximian.

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  20. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    I did a little photo-processing for you. Is it more like this?

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  21. Svarog

    Svarog Well-Known Member

    :)
     
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