how on earth did you give change pre decimal

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  1. rickyb

    rickyb With a name like Ricky...

    my goodness 4 farthing is a penny 2S& 6p is a crown

    Who came up with this horrid system?
     
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  3. hontonai

    hontonai Registered Contrarian

    Do you exclusively use metrics, or do you join the rest of the United States in sticking to the "horrid" traditional English measures of feet, inches, ounces, pounds, quarts, gallons, etc?

    My point is that just because you can't do math in a base 12 format, is it really necessary to criticize and insult the ancestors of those who used the d/s/£ system for centuries, until quite recent times?

    BTW, how do you tell time if you can't handle base 12?
     
  4. chrisild

    chrisild Coin Collector

    Maybe the same people who measure like this: 1 mile is 1760 yards, 1 yard is 3 feet, 1 foot is 12 inches, and so on. Oh, and 1 pound is what, 14 ounces? :D

    The old British "LSD" system is the same as what Charlemagne used in the 9c: 1 pound (libra) = 20 shillings (solidi) = 240 pence (denarii). At least in the 20c, the farthing (1/4 penny), the florin (2 shillings) and the crown (5 shillings) were rather additional or auxiliary unit names ...

    Christian
     
  5. Karl

    Karl Member


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    I've never sold drugs i swear.
     
  6. JHar4330

    JHar4330 New Member

    Hey whatever works.
     
  7. clembo

    clembo A closed mind is no mind

    Gotta agree with the others. While other countries have successfully converted to metric for silly things like weights and measures we plod along with inches, feet, yards and miles not to mention pints, quarts etc.
    Add to this the liquid measure is different for cooking.
    How in the hell do we manage this when there is a much simpler way?
     
  8. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

    By the way, 2s 6d would be a halfcrown. :-D
     
  9. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

    try working in a machine shop...we have to convert fractions to decimal everyday, THEN they throw metric at us sometimes
     
  10. clembo

    clembo A closed mind is no mind

    You just answered my question as to why WE keep our sytstem. You have to buy more tools to get anything done!
     
  11. JeromeLS

    JeromeLS Coin Fanatic

    Ok, the ORIGINAL british system was based on fourthlings (farthings), Halfpennies, Pennys, Crowns (60d), Marks (80d) and Pounds (240d). Most of them weren't struck for a very long time after their conception. The system is similar to that of the french.

    Farthing is a decent from Fourthling, which is the correct middle english term for a quarter of something.
     
  12. acanthite

    acanthite ALIIS DIVES

  13. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    The British L/S/d system is actually based on an old roman system which operated on a base 60 system. 60 is one heck of a number. It is divisible by 1,2,3,4,5,6,10,12,15,20, and 30. It's multiples of 120 and 240 also come in handy.

    While it seems odd to us today I'm sure that the people who grew up using it had no trouble and could make change nearly as quickly as we do today. Possibly faster since today most cashiers have to have the register tell them how much to give back, and then have difficulty figuring out what coins to use to get the cents portion.

    US carpenters have the same problem, handling fractions in 16ths, 8ths, and quarters rounding to get inches which then convert to feet on a base 12 system, and then the feet work on a base 10 system. Give me metric anyday.

    You should be embracing metric since it is already on a decimal system. he problem you have now is you are having to convert the fractions to decimal INCHES which are still on a base 12 system. Wouldn't it be so much nicer if it was al metric and everything was decimal and you never had to convert anything
     
  14. rickyb

    rickyb With a name like Ricky...

    i agree that the customary system sucks but its not my fault somebody created this system
     
  15. clembo

    clembo A closed mind is no mind

    Sorry RickyB but we ARE holding YOU responsible. Sending out emails right now about this.
    Just kidding of course but LMAO at the same time.
     
  16. hontonai

    hontonai Registered Contrarian

    It hardly seems fair to hold our long time member RickyB responsible for postings by newcomer Rickyb?
     
  17. I Like Trees

    I Like Trees I mean coins with trees.

    It's simple...really!

    It is other peoples fault that they won't vote for politicians to change this stupid system we have in the US.
    I love metric forever!!!

    ps) There is noting wrong with a base 12 or base 60 system, as long as your measuring/monetary system matches your counting system.:)

    The measures we use are actually derived form an older base 2 system.

    For Volume
    2 Mouthfuls of drink in a Jigger
    2 Jiggers in a Jack
    2 Jacks in a Jill
    2 Jills in a Cup
    2 Cups in a Pint
    2 Pints in a Quart
    2 Quarts in a Pottle
    2 Pottles in a Gallon
    2 Gallons in a Peck
    2 Pecks in a Kenning
    2 Kennings in a Bushel
    2 Bushels in a Cask
    2 Casks in a Barrel
    2 Barrels in a Hogshead
    2 Hogsheads in a Butt
    2 Butts in a Tun
    1 Tun of Drink=1 Ton of weight (give or take, since you're measuring all this with your mouth;))

    Now, if you can remember all that, you should be fine.:D (I certainly didn't; I looked it up.)

    [To gas station attendant]: Yes, I'd like 10101101001 Jiggers of Premium Unleaded. Thanks sonny!

    ~
     
  18. izotz

    izotz Euro Coins Fan

    This reminds me something. The trend is to get into the metrical system. The arab digits and the decimal system make it easy to deal with those figures. But then, we handle them with computers, than use the binary system.

    Binary system and "2 mouthfuls make a jigger" system are something we may not be so used to. But if we were, a system where everything can be divided by two, perhaps would not be so complicated.

    Nowadays, our computers grow from 2 Mb RAM to 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, 256, 512, 1024, 2048, 4096... funny, isn't it?

    But anyway, I personally prefer the decimal system.
     
  19. I Like Trees

    I Like Trees I mean coins with trees.

    Binary denominations for Euro

    Yes, instead of...
    €2 - €1 - €0,50 - €0,20 - €0,10 -- €0,05 - - €0,02 -- - €0,01 _ _ _ it would be
    €2 - €1 - €0,50 - €0,25 - €0,125 - €0,0625 - €0,03125 - €0,015625
    and, if needed, €0,0078125 (1/128th Euro)


    and instead of

    €5,00 - €10,00 - €20,00 - €50,00 - €100,00 - €200,00 - €500,00 it would be
    4,00 - €08,00 - €16,00 - €32,00 - € 64,00 - €128,00 - €256,00
    and of course512,00

    or (in binary)
    € 0,0000001
    € 0,000001
    € 0,00001
    € 0,0001
    € 0,001
    € 0,01
    € 0,1
    € 1,00
    € 10,00
    € 100,00
    € 1000,00
    € 10000,00
    € 100000,00
    € 1000000,00
    € 10000000,00
    € 1000000000,00
     
  20. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    Time is not measured in base 12. It is measured in base 10.
     
  21. gatzdon

    gatzdon Numismatist


    Unless you are talking Troy pounds, then I think it is 12.
     
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