Coin without any number/figure?

Coin & Art...

In this section, let pictures speak...

Penny Ball... (I prefer to call this Penny World)

https://momath.org/home/math-monday-make-a-ball-of-money/

Penny Triangle (Sierpinski Trianle - Simple Fractal and Self Similarity)

http://mathinyourfeet.blogspot.com.tr/2012/09/a-whole-lotta-triangles-goin-on-and-on.html

Koch Snowflake (Fractal - Self Similarity)


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These are what I chosed. Yes, more about the fractal where mathematics and art meet.

Now, what has this to do with the coin? A self-similarity exists in the money as well. Repeating pattern is the one cent which I also called the constant of money. (Btw, a good analogy of the money is the wheat rather than the water which is done by people wrongly. Each wheat grain/particle can be considered as one cent coin, a handful of wheat grain can be considered as one dollar, etc. Wheat is a very interesting thing, its flows of wheat are academically the least studied subject comparing with the solids, liquids and gases. Anyway, more on these later.)

 

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There are no pennies in the ball that you posted above, why would you call it a "penny ball"?

 

can't fix stupid

19 - woot

 

Well @Truble and I are going to celebrate pg 20 with a long distance cheers if you want to join in.

 

looking back on my posts from last night, it looks like i was celebrating a bit too much and a bit early

 

You are too lazy to click a link (under that picture), aren't you?

"... Ball of Money ... a truncated icosahedron, i.e., a soccer ball in the US or a football elsewhere..." (there are 12 pennies and 24 quarters there, totalling $5,12)

Quarter (also dimes, nickels, halfs, etc) are not money IF the penny/cent is worthless...
It is like that: a handful of wheat or a bag of wheat or a trailer of wheat are imaginary wheats if there is no one wheat grain.

While I am at it, at the wheat. Let me also tell a little about its flows of the wheat (also to see how the flows of the money::water analogy is false that is used in explanation of "how much money or how many money". Learn English, Corgi.)

There are three forms of materials, as known, solid, liquid and gas. Academically, their flows of these have been studied much. Yes, solid flows (like mud flow) are also studied much. But, the wheat flows are very interesting. Depending on where it is, the flow of wheat changes. For example, in a trailer, wheat flows act like mud. In an open channel , eg, in a milling factory, it flows like water. In the discharge of a combine harvester or if you throw a handful of wheat into air, it flows like gas (but solid) particles. In the wheat::money analogy, each wheat particle corresponds to the one cent coin. Therefore, money/currency/cent all countable. When you have the quarter in your pocket, never forget that you have 25 cents which corresponds to 25 wheat particles. When you don't have one cent coin in your pocket that quarter is imaginary money. When you give/take the quarter its flow is like a "bulk/lump" flow of the wheat. When there is no one cent coin in your pocket, that lump flow is an imaginary flow.

 

Well, the ball does have a few pennies (US 1 cent coins), and in the triangle photo there are some in the background, where the hand is. Now don't ask me what the point is.

Christian

 

I admit I posted wrong picture of triangles. Here it is, also with the pennies.



The point? It is just to show a simplest form of fractals which is also considered as art today. More beautiful fractal arts can be found everywhere on the net. Fractal is mentioned here because of the self-similarity which also exists in the money in which repeating pattern is the one cent. Anyway, as it is said, art/beauty is in the eye of beholder. Those who don't have one cent coin in their pockets don't see the beauty in the one cent, either.

Ps: btw, it is 19th page, more than 10,000 hits, and, there is still no point in this thread? (lol). I can think of why you think so. I'll say one word only for the moment, "trust".

 

No pennies shown, just cents

 

From "Momath" (math museum) webpage above:
"... The diameters of US quarters and 'pennies' are ..."

From that blog page of an artist somewhere in the US above:
"... First we made a passable Sierpinski triangle with 'pennies' and counted them up. 27! ..."

Kidding?

Seriously. Penny or Cent? Like Pfenning or Centimos?

 

Although penny and cent are generally considered synonymous, cent is the the proper term for the US 1/100th of a dollar coin and the one that I prefer.

This is important because what if one would put a penny in his pocket, but his balance was calibrated to having the weight of a cent in his pocket? Surely you can see that this person must not get on any high ladders or operate heavy machinery. This is a safety violation to the highest degree.

 

You may prefer to use the term/noun "cent", but, some others out there are using the term/noun "penny". So, there is no common agreement among you about that, at least, in practice. So, while there is no common agreement about that, what do you suggest me, which of them (penny or cent) shall I use here? (When I copied&pasted those page links above I just used the same how they say, "penny". It doesn't matter for me.)

Btw, I found this.
In the Bible: Money (284 Occurrences), Drachma (2 Occurrences), Coin (9 Occurrences), Denarii (7 Occurrences), Denary (8 Occurrences), Penny (14 Occurrences).

It seems that if I use "cent", there will be another kind of safety violation. However, even if we reach an agreement about the term here, there will still be a problem. Even father and son, two brothers, etc etc who can reach agreements in all other things from same language to same religion to same patriotism to etc etc generally do not reach an agreement when it is about the money, you know that if you are old enough. You know why. There is no agreement in the money, yet...

 

The point is...there is no point...T'was brillig and the slithy toves did gyre and gibble in the wabe.

 

You're rockin' it William S.!

 

Coin & Literature...

There are many many quotes and quatations on the penny or on the one cent in written literatures.
Daily life oral literatures are more interesting when they are read/thought carefully.
Examples:
Many politicians accused for corruption/mulpractice say such words: "I didn't get even a penny..." (not lie, but, confession.)
Rich soccer players whose salary is paid late say: "I've not got even a penny for months...." (not lie, but, confession.)
Thefts accused of stealing money say: "I didn't steal even a penny..." (not lie, but, confession.)
Mayors proud of making a thing without help say: "We didn't get even a penny from state to build it...." (not lie, but, confession.)
Officers proud of doing jobs legally say: "I've not got even a penny bribe..." (not lie, but, confession.)
Rich bosses proudly/sarcasmly? say: "I don't have even a single penny in my pocket..." (not lie, but, confession.)
Beggars when a penny is given say: "You are sarcasming with me by giving a penny!..." (not lie, but, their confession.)
Patriots saying "we don't love our country for money" get much money, but, when they are offered a penny, they say: "penny is useless..." (not lie, but, their confession.)
Religious scholars, popes/imams/etc, asking donations say "we use every penny for the good..." (but, they don't have a penny, not lie, but, their confession.)
Etc...

As seen in the written and oral literatures, colloquial speechs, daily life conversations, most used form of the penny is:
"EVEN a penny...", that implies how people see the penny, "small money"...
For example, here is what a taxi triver in the UK said:
"... "I think we should get rid of them," says Mr xxxx. "I used to throw them out of the window. They're useless, aren't they?"....
(In the news article, Penny's stiuation in the UK: http://www.bbc.com/news/business-36226813 )

 

What do you as a kind of dog understand from the coin...?
Making war or peace is possible through coin collecting...?

 

Erol, you seem to be intent on making long and often incomprehensible threads.
A thread should embody a question and corresponding answers of the question, not side excursions into esoteric material with little or no connection of any size. I realize you are foreign, but I do not think this is a language problem, as you seem very competent with English. Please do not make such threads a habit as they confuse more than educate. Good ideas can be communicated with sparser amounts of words and detours. Thanks and Welcome, Jim

 

Let me put it this way: Some of your posts I can easily understand, others ... well. But my comment regarding "no point" had to do with the thread as a whole: For me it is not focused on one point but rather a meandering flow of thoughts and comments. What Jim wrote ...

Christian