Umayyad fals overstruck on LRB?

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Parthicus, Sep 16, 2017.

  1. Parthicus

    Parthicus Well-Known Member

    I recently bought this coin from Wayne Sayles. It's an Umayyad post-reform AE fals, undated (c.700-750 AD) from the mint of Tabariya (Tiberias), Album 188. The reverse shows a lion. But look carefully at the obverse, between about 2 and 3 o'clock:
    Umayyad fals Tabariya.jpg
    To me, that looks like lettering in the Roman alphabet, and given the size of the coin (15mm), would imply that this was overstruck on a late Roman bronze coin. There seems to be some precedent for such an overstrike, I found this example on Zeno:
    https://www.zeno.ru/showphoto.php?photo=170017
    So, do you agree that this is an overstrike on a coin that was ~300-400 years old at the time, or am I seeing things?
     
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  3. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    Who knows, could be overstruck over Roman or Byzantine coinage, but I definitely see what you see. Nice catch.
     
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  4. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I agree but can not name the undertype. I believe the zeno.ru undertype may be Valentinian rather than Valens judging from the spacings.

    Wonderful find!
     
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  5. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Nice find, congrats :)
     
  6. RAGNAROK

    RAGNAROK Naebody chaws me wi impunitY

    Very nice (and unusual) type & background.
     
  7. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Sure, why not? How else would Roman lettering appear there? Very cool. :cool:
     
  8. Deacon Ray

    Deacon Ray Well-Known Member

    Great coin! That’s pretty fascinating. It looks to me like there could be more vestige characters under the mineralization in the 8 to 11 o’clock area.
     
  9. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    What an interesting coin!
     
  10. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

    Looks like the letters might be D N CO , , ,, which would make sense on a bronze of that size.
     
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