Curious specimens

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Braydon, Sep 16, 2017.

  1. Braydon

    Braydon Make your own history, with history you can own.

    Trying to decide what to figure of this 1889 CC.. I'm sure everybody will scream fake to protect their interests. I'd say something spilt, goodness forbid somebody did an ag test? 2017-09-16_13_40_11.jpg 2017-09-16_13_40_53.jpg
     
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  3. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    I wouldn't buy it.
     
  4. CoinBreaux

    CoinBreaux Well-Known Member

    It's definitely a fake. The bubbles by the eagles tail feathers are a dead giveaway.
     
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  5. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    I'd start concentrating more on graded coins
     
  6. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    Yeah . . . but be sure they are not fake coins in fake holders with fake CAC beans on them.

    Either that, or learn how to authenticate and grade before buying costly coins.
     
  7. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    No, we'll scream "fake" because we've seen this exact fake with the funny 9 dozens of times before. This may be new to you - I'm beginning to think it's not and you're simply malicious - but it isn't to us.
     
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  8. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    That's super easy to avoid. But I also said that because of past posts which I think you will understand if you look through them
     
  9. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator


    It's only super easy to avoid for one reason - that there appear to not be very many of them out there yet - but that might change a lot in the future, particularly if lax consumers remain unable to detect them on their own.
     
  10. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    It's super easy for a lot of reasons but lack of effort on their part isn't one. The fake slabs aren't anything new nor is their efforts with them so there really isn't anything that just happened that should make people concerned. They're all also almost exclusively older generations, stick to the current or last generation of a PCGS slab or the new NGC slab and you have already eliminated most of the fakes. You can also stick just to PCGS coins that are secure plus or have a TruView and it's about as easy as it gets to avoid fakes.

    Don't forget the manufacturers who the fakes aren't the end sellers. They're pumping things out and only willing to put so much effort or money into making it right. They just want it good enough and pick the easiest things and sell and get their money and let someone else try and maximize the value. Raw coins are and likely always will be the biggest faking threat.
     
  11. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    It's only a good way to do business as long as people like the OP are willing to be duped (or are complicit) and are allowed the public forum to disseminate their deception. Therefore, it's a good way to do business.
     
  12. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator


    Bear in mind that I'm talking only about how easy it is for the uneducated in this market to avoid being taken by that specific situation. For them, it is only the lack of numbers working in their favor; at least at this point it is.

    The rest of us possess some level of knowledge that we may employ to protect ourselves, which they do not.

    True views and Secure Plus holders, while effective, are expensive, and not prolific enough to protect the majority of market participants.
     
  13. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    I'll say "fake," too, to protect my interests. My interests are important to me. I don't care that nobody else thinks they're important to them. I care about them, because they're the only interests I got. I don't got many interests. If I did, I'd be interesting. But for a horse, I think I've got enough, probably even more than most horses, or at least the ones I know, personally...
     
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  14. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    Nay (neigh), says Ed.
     
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  15. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    It's always a pleasure to meet someone who speaks my native tongue.
     
  16. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    I edited after you replied, but I think the humor still comes across as intended.
     
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  17. Hommer

    Hommer Curator of Semi Precious Coinage

    Just wondering, do you still have that $35,000 proof of polishing?
     
  18. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    That approach works for the uneducated as well which is ultimately going to be the flaw of them wasting time on trying to fake slabs. If the uneducated just stick to those slabs while they learn/until they learn more and get comfortable the fake slabs are of almost no concern.

    The lack of fake slabs is because they don't work, they're a waste of time. They've been available in bulk for years but they just aren't that good. It's to much work when they can sell the fakes raw and not give another identifier with the slab. The more things involved the more things you give someone to pick up on the scam
     
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