Coin without any number/figure?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by ErolGarip, Jul 17, 2017.

  1. ErolGarip

    ErolGarip Active Member

    Okay, lets say so, lets say "dollars&cent" standard currency. Word, I'll accept that the both when/if I ever be to the US. However, people over there are seeing "cent" as jibberish/garbage, they don't have one cent in their pocket. Means that they know much, but, they don't do what they say. (just like mathematicans.)

    Unsaid is said now finally, thanks Hommer. My answer to this classical question when 1kurus/cent mentioned will be like that:

    You don't need a pair of shoes if you don't have a healthy pair of feet...
    You don't need a pair of eyeglass if you do have a healthy pair of eyes...

    Your question can be meaningful if it is said like that "Will 5kurus (or 10kurus, 100kurus, etc) buy a pair of shoes?"
    This can not be said for "1kurus (or 1cent, etc)" BECAUSE 1kurus/cent is not a coin for the trade, it is a coin to be kept constantly in the pocket, for healthy mind... Only then, we can see the absurd things in the life such as this in this picture (a horse with leather eyeglasses, with two pair of iron shoes, with a metallic toothbrush/bridle bid always in the mouth, a horse carter sitting who lost ability to walk, lost ability to use his feet who don't need a pair of shoe and this scene is in front of a hospital. That horse carter doesn't see the importance of 1kurus/cent, either... like doctors/presidents/etc don't see...)

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  3. CoinCorgi

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  4. Truble

    Truble Well-Known Member

    :banghead:
     
  5. Kentucky

    Kentucky Well-Known Member

    "Few people may have cents, but even fewer have sense." Ben Franklin
     
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  6. ErolGarip

    ErolGarip Active Member

    You did it
    When you read this?
    How old are you? Haven't you seen any person with one leg only? Or, even without any leg? Do they need a pair of shoes!? Does the kid (spasticity in born) of next door poor neighbour need a pair of shoes? Does 40 years old rich son (spasticity in born) who is billionaire now after his father (owner of many factories here in Turkey) passed away some years ago need a pair of shoes? Does Famous English scientist, over 70 now, Stephen Hawking who became a spastic need a pair of shoes?

    Of course, we need shoes, and their prices are less than $50. If you are rich, you can also wear a $500 shoes. However, whether you are poor or rich, whether you have 50cent shoes or $500 shoes, you also need a pair of "horse eyeglass", so that you can see that "horse cart" in the picture above, which also exists in Central Park of NewYork... where horse carters there too are "legless" people... Also blinds... Their eyes don't see 1cent coin, either...

    When your head does not get these, yes, you can bang your head to the wall...

    Ps: "Hommer" who said "will 1kurus coin buy a pair of shoes?" said it right, but, incomplete. There is no 1kurus (ok, 1cent) in his pocket, however, he probably has 5cent (nickel) or 10cent (dime) in his pocket from time to time. Will the nickel (or the dime) buy a pair of shoes? Complete/correct question should have been like that. You can not buy anything with a coin that does not exist in your pocket. First, have it in your pocket, and then, think about what to do with 1cent coin... (until you find an answer, just keep it in the pocket. Is it heavy!?)
     
  7. SchwaVB57

    SchwaVB57 Well-Known Member

    A person's age is irrelevant. A person with 1 leg or no legs does not need a PAIR of shoes. A pair is two and 1 is a single. A horse in Central Park needs 2 PAIR of shoes, not 1 or a single. How shoes and horses fit into this rambling about 1 cent in a pocket is all ridiculous.
    I think a water pipe of some kind figures into the big picture somewhere.
     
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  8. ErolGarip

    ErolGarip Active Member

    naturehorses.jpg

    Do these horses, in the nature, real natural horses, need any "shoe"?
    Do they need any "eyeglass"?
    Do they need any "bit"coin in their mouths?

    They are healthy... unlike the horses in Central Parks... where people around them are not healthy, either, as you can see in the ills/diseaseds/disableds/etc people... However, you can not see such things, when your eyes do not see your own 1cent coin...
     
    Last edited: Sep 13, 2017
  9. Hommer

    Hommer Curator of Semi Precious Coinage

    When asking about shoes, I was referring to this photo.
     
  10. ErolGarip

    ErolGarip Active Member

    Check rubber shoes of your metallic horse: Penny Test

     
  11. ErolGarip

    ErolGarip Active Member

    While we are at it... At vehicles...

    Hey "Old" engineer, you have not listened to me. I guess you are viewing here. So, maybe, you listen here (so that public too can utilize.)

    There will be a vehicle/barrier crash test soon? Ok. I just checked the standards (the both, American ASTM F2656 and British BSI PAS 68), they both lack a pre-condition that should have said that "accredited company with the test facility including test vehicle driver have to have one penny coin in their pockets". (or, accredited test companies will likely fake up/fabricate the measured data and more important than this is that their test vehicle driver is not in safety when he does not have a one cent coin in his pocket.)

    Note that. Any currency coin (nickel dime dollar pound euro lira ruble shekel etc) can be crashed into the pieces, into the cent (or, the penny, the kurus, the agora, the kapik, the fen, etc.) which can pass the crash tests.
     
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  12. Kentucky

    Kentucky Well-Known Member

    Yup
     
  13. ErolGarip

    ErolGarip Active Member

    Nope, Erol is not a Pope who is listened to as he has Pocket with No One Coin in it...
    (Pray lazy pray...)
     
  14. CoinCorgi

    CoinCorgi Tell your dog I said hi!

    Ok. Can we get an update on where we are in regards to this thread making sense?
     
  15. Hommer

    Hommer Curator of Semi Precious Coinage

    It will start to come to you on the last page
     
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  16. CoinCorgi

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    This thread certainly is a train wreck. Is there an ASTM standard for that?
     
  17. Hommer

    Hommer Curator of Semi Precious Coinage

  18. ErolGarip

    ErolGarip Active Member

    Well said

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    Well done.
     
  19. Truble

    Truble Well-Known Member

    I think I final figured it out.

    If you don't have 1money in your pocket, for reasons of safety at work you may tip over and fall down. Or worst case, the earth may start to wobble and spin out of its orbit in the cold dark depth of lifeless space.
     
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  20. ErolGarip

    ErolGarip Active Member

    I knew you "Truble" had some signs of wisdom. Truble probably has 100000000money, and this is why he never goes onto the roof where he may tip over and fall down, so safe he is. His that 100000000money in his pocket also saved the earth not to wobble and spin out of its orbit. Truble, humanity is grateful to you. (however, when you don't have 1money in your pocket your 100000000money becomes 00000000money. Ok, this is a kidding, however, that may still be used in educating kids about the 1money.)

    Ok, I see, you too are asking how in the world the 1money is correlated to the work safety... If I knew what occupation/work you do, I could explain the work safety related to the 1money to you. Anyway, you too probably have a car. A car has about 30,000 components. If one of those many components, eg, one spark plug is missing, that car does not run properly, you know that. If "car::money" (here "::" is analogy notation, not widely known) analogy is done, then, one spark plug may correspond to the 1cent coin, which is how the current money system is handling the 1cent in the money assembly, i.e. as a mounted part of the money assembly, as seen in (trying to) circulation of 1cent coin as well... which is wrong...

    1cent coin in "car::money" analogy does not correspond to the spark plug or any other component of 30,000 components in a car. 1cent coin corresponds to the "key" of car, which is also a part of car integrity, a little differently. The key is used once when starting/stopping the engine and when the car is in the park you don't keep its key in the car, but, in your pocket. This too is for safety... And, what is the price of a car key? It is like 1cent in $100 value car. This means that your key to drive $100 is worth of 1cent. The key is negligible? Of course, not. So is 1cent either.

    Work safety is very relevant to the "integrity", in an assembly which may have a continuously mounted part (like spark plug) or may not have a mounted part (removable part, like car key). In case of the money, the 1cent is a part of money assembly, but, a seperate part of the money which has to be kept in the pocket. When you know the money better you can start to see the different types of integrities in each of others works as well better, that helps on becoming more careful and results in safer works... Why to see the integrity in the money well is so important, more important than any integrity in any work? Actually, not. But, people, almost everybody, have been putting the cart before the horse (i.e. they thinking the money first and then they thinking the works.) So, in this wrong order which has been already being done, it is better to learn the money and its integrity first. Then, the question arises, what to do with the 1cent coin.... This thread explains this. Just keep it in the pocket. That's how the integrity of 1cent coin in the money is.
     
    Last edited: Sep 15, 2017
  21. ErolGarip

    ErolGarip Active Member

    Related to the work safety.
    If there are electricians here, they already know how simple "control pen" (voltage tester) is important for them. They can draw this analogy "money::electrical system" and "1cent coin::control pen". Educational part of this, i.e. explaining&understanding 1cent&money, can be done later in such "risky" works like the electric. First, Do (keep "control pen" always in your pocket and use it when necessary, i.e. before touching any electrical item and put it back into your pocket after using it. Similarly, keep 1cent coin always in pocket and check it when necessary, i.e. before doing any work if you have a money problem like any person, just have a look at it and put it back into your pocket), and, later, you yourself can learn how 1cent coin will be useful, also at your works.

    By the way, today, I gave two more 1kurus coins to two more electricians here who work at a private rehabilitation (for spastic kids etc) hospital here in this town. Now, in this town (population less than 100,000), all electricians (around 1000 people) have 1kurus coins in their pockets. Electricians are the first most urgent people in the work safety... So, I recommend electricians here too (engineers/technicians/etc) to have at least one 1cent coin asap in their pockets.
     
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