Tiberius Mount Argaeus

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Andres2, Sep 7, 2017.

  1. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    Finally got me a Mount Argaeus coin, seen many on Cointalk pass by.
    This one is minted under Tiberius , which is OK, fits very well in my 12 caesars silver set.
    Didn't break the bank with 60 USD.
    please show your volcano coins.

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  3. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Nice example at that price.

    I believe I only have one example with Mount Argaeus----a drachma of Septimius Severus:

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  4. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    The bronze version of Mikey's coin has an altar under the mountain.
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  5. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Nice catch & great price.

    Here is my Argaeus.

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    Commodus (177 - 192 A.D.)
    AR Didrachm
    Caesaria, Cappadocia
    O: AYT M AYP KOMO ANTωNI, laureate head right.
    R: YΠATOC ∆ ΠAT ΠA-TPI, Mt. Argaeus surmounted by star.
    Cos IV, struck 183-185 AD.
    21mm
    3.96g
    Metcalf 155f; Sydenham 372a

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    Lucius Verus (161 - 169)
    Caesarea, Cappadocia
    AR Didrachm
    O: AYTOKR OYHPOC CEBACTOC Bare-headed and cuirassed bust right, seen from behind.
    R: YPA TOS B ,Mt. Argaeus surmounted by Helios standing left.
    Struck 161-166 A.D. (as COS II)
    Caesarea, Cappadocia Mint
    6.3g
    20mm
    Metcalf, Caesarea 131d; Sydenham, Caesarea

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    Hadrian (117-138 A.D.)
    AR Didrachm
    CAPPADOCIA, Caesarea
    O: ADPIANOC CEBACTOC, laureate head right.
    R: YPATOC G.PATHPPA, Helios standing on Mount Argaeus, holding globe and sceptre.
    20mm
    6.35g
    Sydenham, Caesarea 263; Metcalf, Caesarea 92a
     
  6. LaCointessa

    LaCointessa Well-Known Member

  7. Evan8

    Evan8 A Little Off Center

    This is my Tiberius drachm for my 12 caesars

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    TIBERIUS
    AR Drachm, Caesarea, Cappadocia
    TIBEΡIOΣ KAIΣAΡ ΣEBAΣTOΣ, laureate head right
    QEOU SEBASTOU UIOS, Helios standing left atop Mount Argaeus, holding globe and sceptre.
    RPC 3620, 3.74g, 18mm
     
  8. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    Nice coin for a 60 spot @Andres2 !

    I have this AE, also with the altar.

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    Elagabalus, 220 AD, Caesarea, Cappadocia.

    O: AYKMAYPH AI ANTWNE (INOC) R: r:i MHTPO(PI)KAICAPIA C mount Argaeus atop altar, ET (gamma), 26x28mm 10.0g syd 523

    What exactly is going on with the altar? The Sayles book on Roman Provincials says it's a "model" on an altar. Is it a statue like thing on an altar? Is it a metaphorical depiction or was this like a real thing? I've never quite understood what this was.
     
  9. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

  10. ancientone

    ancientone Well-Known Member

    Nice catch Andres2!

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    Cappadocia, Caesarea. Severus Alexander AE28.
    Obv: Laureate, draped & cuirassed bust right, AY K CEOVH ALEXAND.
    Rev: Mount Argaeus, ETG below. MHT KAIC.
    Regnal Year 3 = 224 AD.
     
  11. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    Nice coin and one of my favourite ethnic types from Cappadocia. Congrats!
     
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  12. Deacon Ray

    Deacon Ray Well-Known Member

    Great coin, @Andres2 ! Very timely—featuring the dormant volcano. Although it has not erupted for over 10,000 years it reminds us of the potential fury of nature.
     
  13. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    CAPPADOCIA, Caesaraea Hadrian Ae 15 134-35 AD Mount Argaeus 2 stars
    Reference.
    RPC III, 3156
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  14. Nemo

    Nemo Well-Known Member

    Some great coins in this thread! Certainly one of my favorite types.
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  15. RAGNAROK

    RAGNAROK Naebody chaws me wi impunitY

    :wideyed: WOW! :wideyed:
     
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  16. Ed Snible

    Ed Snible Well-Known Member

    Here is the first numismatic depiction of the volcano.

    This coin doesn't photograph well due to its low relief and low grade. About the only thing going for it is the original patina. It is very scarce and impossible to find in high grade.

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    CAPPADOCIA, Caesaria (AKA Eusebia), 36 BC - 17 AD or 101-89 BC(?), 7.04g, AE17
    Obv: Facing gorgoneion within aegis
    Rev: Mount Argaeus/Argaios, below ΕΥΣΕΒΕΙΑ/Τ
    Lindgren III 945, Sear 5706
    Purchased from H. C. Lindgren, Summer 2001

    Imhoof-Blumer believed that this aegis copies aegis/Nike bronzes of Mithradates the Great. The authority who issued these coins is still unclear today. Most authorities attributed to Archelaus, a Roman client and Cappadocia’s last king. H. Herrli believes this coinage was struck after 101 BC when Mithradates the Great’s eight-year-old son Ariarathes IX governed Cappadocia.

    François de Callataÿ told me “... the attribution to Ariarathes IX is fragile to the extreme and unconvincing since it entirely lays on the reading of a monogram.”

    I can’t speak on the monogram but the Ariarathes IX attribution seems reasonable. It seems unlikely that Archelous, a Roman puppet, would use one of Mithradates’ coin obverses when there were people still living who remembered that struggle. Herrli’s assignment of the coin to Ariarathes IX, who reigned 101-89 BC, implies that the aegis design was used in Cappadocia directly before its adoption by Mithradates VI on his massive Pontic bronze issue. That is the opposite of Imhoof-Blumer and E. A. Sydenham’s speculation, that the transmission went from Mithradates’ mints to Eusebeia.
     
  17. Deacon Ray

    Deacon Ray Well-Known Member

    That's an awesome portrait, @Nemo !
     
  18. Nemo

    Nemo Well-Known Member

    Thanks RAGNAROK, Ray. Years ago I almost sold this coin, thankfuly I came to my senses!
     
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  19. Mike Margolis

    Mike Margolis Well-Known Member

    just found this one and inexpensive. really liked the red patina on the volcano so I went for it. Cappadocia Caesarea SEVERUS ALEXANDER AE coin. Minted between 222&235 A.D. It measures 24 MM and weighs 10.06 Grams coinboughtsveruspatinarevargues.jpg coinboughtseveruspatinamountarguesobv.jpg
     
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  20. Orange Julius

    Orange Julius Well-Known Member

    Nice coin! I have a Gordian III with a similar countermark on the neck. Then while researching this coin, I found quite a few similar examples with the same countermarkings. So a common characteristic of these I guess!

    Sorry for the poor photos...
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    Gordian III, AE26
    Caesarea, Cappadocia
    Gordian III
    Issued: 241 - 242AD
    O: AVK M ANT ΓΟΡΔΙΑΝΟC; Laureate, draped bust, right.
    R: MHTO KAICB; Mt. Argaeus, on altar.
    Exergue: Altar: εNTI; Below, εΤΔ.
    Syd 613a; Bland p. 33, 122/7.

    Other Gordian countermark examples:
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  21. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    Year 2 of Sept. Sev. seems popular here...

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    This came in a lot along with 2 others of year 2, 4 of year 5, 1 of year 13, 4 of year 14, one of year 16, and one of year 17. Anyone know if any of these years are scarce?
     
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