Coin without any number/figure?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by ErolGarip, Jul 17, 2017.

  1. ErolGarip

    ErolGarip Active Member

    Who saying what...

    5,066,400,000 penny coins = $50,664,000... (thrown into the garbage, much more than this...)

    Florida Gov. Rick Scott: "This storm has the potential to devastate this state, and you have to take this seriously. Remember: We can rebuild your home; we cannot rebuild your life."... (Maybe, that "Gov" already has one cent coin in his pocket... If so, then, listen to him. However, be sure first if he really has. If not, take care of your own self, without listening to anyone who without one cent coin, by keeping one cent coin in your pocket. You can listen to this Erol who has it, its equivalent: https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/therarest-jpg.667363/ )

    Eye size of hurrican Irma is 50 miles, about 1/100 of the US size. It is like one cent which is 1/100 of dollar.
     
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  3. Truble

    Truble Well-Known Member

    Moving the thread to the top!!! Wheeeee.....

    Coincorgi, whats the page? 13? A bakers dozen of worthless babble on 1cent.
     
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  4. Truble

    Truble Well-Known Member

    Lord help us, there is now a thread on retiring the 1 cent piece. Erolgarip, sick'em with your 1cent babble and end their misery!
     
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  5. chrisild

    chrisild Coin Collector

    Yep, and 13 is also the number of your posts in this topic ... so far. Of course there is nothing wrong about "being done" with this thread. But then I don't see any reason for always reviving it. ;)

    Christian
     
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  6. ErolGarip

    ErolGarip Active Member

    Saw it, https://www.cointalk.com/threads/when-will-the-penny-be-retired.302555/ , it is specifically about the "US penny".
    "Truble", you are welcome over there, if you are bored here and if you have nothing worth to say here.

    This thread is not only about the US cent, but also about the World cent... The US cent is just an example here in this thread.
    This thread is questioning a historical error, all over the world in all history, for centuries including today.
    This thread is about an error which has been repeated by whole World including the US over and over in all history.
    This thread is about "online academical research study in progress in the public".
     
  7. ErolGarip

    ErolGarip Active Member

    For newcomers to this thread, let me summarize this thread.

    1. Numerals (numbers/marks/face values) on the coins are less and less when going back to the history, till 700BC, the date of known first coin, Lydian coin. However, there are numerals such as "IIII" incised on 9,000 years old "stone coins" which are called "counting tokens" by an Arcaeological prof (whose weblink is given in the thread.)

    2. Numerals on the coins throughout the history (except 9,000 years old stone coins) have been shadowed by political/etc figures on the coins.

    3. By "shadowing" numerals, mathematics in/of the coins have also been shadowed, have become insignificant, hence, lots of confusions in money/coin, countability, unit, etc.

    4. First time here in the history, coin&mathematics is questioned&studied here in the detail. (also contributed by a math prof, via an email, given in the thread.)

    5. Conclusion of coin&math study is 1cent coin (and equivalents 1penny/1agora/1kurus/1kopik/1yen/etc) is Constant... This is Local universality, valid in whole World...

    6. This property, "constancy" of 1cent, is also shown in coin&economy and conclusion in that is 1cent should exist, but, can't/shouldn't be circulated. Circulation/flooding of one cent coin in some places, eg in the US and no minting at all in many places now that are over-engineering or under-engineering is a historical error...

    7. How a coin should exist and should not circulate? Only way is to keep one cent coin in the pocket. This conforms the logic, mathematically and practically.

    8. Coin&linguistics is also studied, by questioning "how much money or how many money" deeply following "un/countability of money" (this discussion was mostly on a linguistics forum, its link also given in this thread.)

    9. The most important thing related to 1cent coin here is its relation to the "Work Safety" which is also mentioned in this thread. However, without telling much about it, as it was urgent, "work safety" is mentioned here just by recommending people at works, especially at risky works, to keep one cent coin always in their pockets, without giving it into the circulation that won't work for 1cent coin anyway.

    10. In coming days (after Hurricane Irma), how keeping one cent coin always in the pocket can be useful in the "work safety" will be explained. Anyway, for people at heavy risky works such as electricity works, carrying small one cent coin always in the pocket can not be heavy, it is heavy for lazy people, heavy for their minds.
     
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  8. Truble

    Truble Well-Known Member

    Christian, all due respect as the moderator, but I am not the one posting babbling, incoherent nonsense. None, repeat none of these post make any sense. these are either the postings of a superior being that can only be understood by another superior being, and we are all in the presence of deity or ......fill in the blank.

    As the hurricane gets ready to hit I will take the advise and place a "1cent coin in the pocket so 'work safety' will be explained".o_O
     
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  9. ErolGarip

    ErolGarip Active Member

    "Truble", it is ok, there is no explanation on (9) and (10) which are about "work safety". And, from (4) to (8), contributions were by others (non-members, a prof, a linguistic forum, etc) and myself. (2) and (3) are claims.

    Before discussing about them, lets start again with (1).

    What about (1) ? It was about numerals on the coins and many members here have contributed. Also, "Sallent", ancient coins collector/expert, said clearly that "there is almost no ancient coin with numerals". You claim otherwise? Almost all of ancient coins have numerals on them? When going back in time, coins with numerals are more and more?

    Ps: "Sallent", now, I saw you are in FL. I don't think you need me to say twice to have a one cent coin in your pocket, as you are already a coin collector, you can see the importance of one cent coin easier than others who don't deal with the coins much like you, you can also see its importance in the "work safety" which is related to the "integrity", a common property in any work and in money also. My recommendation without explanation is for those who don't have enough time to think about importance of one cent coin. For example, today, in the town, I met a teen boy working as electrican assistant, he was a little anxious/excited. I just gave him a one kurus coin and told him to keep in his pocket, without any explanation. He calmed down and looked at it carefully. He'll do the integrity himself also in his electric works by drawing analogy. Such somethings can not be explained easily as everybody works in different fields and work safety and integrity depend on the field they work in. Also, not many people like to listen lesson.
     
  10. chrisild

    chrisild Coin Collector

    My point, not as a moderator but a member like you, was that anybody who finds a topic dull, pointless, etc. can simply ignore it. I don't understand many of these posts either. :)

    Christian
     
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  11. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    yes, please
     
  12. ErolGarip

    ErolGarip Active Member

    I don't understand, either:).
    For example, they come here and they count page nr here. Do they do this in every thread? As far as I saw, there are more than 100,000 threads on this forum. If they are here to count pages in this thread, I remind them of that here we are counting the money/coin, not the pages. Anyway, I too try to ignore their such posts here.

    Chrisild, if you did not understand some of my posts here, maybe, because it was a little chaotic, well, am a novice in moderating a thread. Anyway, at the end, I guess everythings clear now after summarizing this thread as in this post:

    If there is anything unclear in these (1)...(10), anyone here can let me know and I'll clarify.
     
  13. CoinCorgi

    CoinCorgi Tell your dog I said hi!

    (1)...(10) are all unclear. Could you start over please?
     
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  14. ErolGarip

    ErolGarip Active Member

    Ok. Step by step.
    Lets start with (1).
    On first pages of the thread, the result is the older coins the less numerals.
    Posters's contributions tell so.

    Is this clear?
     
  15. CoinCorgi

    CoinCorgi Tell your dog I said hi!

  16. ErolGarip

    ErolGarip Active Member

    No? You don't agree with the posters in this thread? or You didn't understand "my" language?
    Please, make it clear.
     
  17. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

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  18. ErolGarip

    ErolGarip Active Member

    This summarizes (1)...

    Ps: Nothing to rofl in this. If a few of you are here to try to entertain yourselves here, go elsewhere.
     
  19. SchwaVB57

    SchwaVB57 Well-Known Member

    I still say it is Ed Wood or one of his assistants!
     
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  20. ErolGarip

    ErolGarip Active Member

    is a claim, based on (1) that tells the less numerals the more other things (such as political figures, etc.)
     
  21. ErolGarip

    ErolGarip Active Member

    is a further claim that tells the less numerals the less math in/of the coins, that also gives a motivation toward the study "coin&math" which can be found in (4)...(8), at the end, the result is, One Cent is Constant... Alternativeless...
    That means, NO any governmental authority and NO any person can give up 1Cent coin (or equivalents 1agora/1kurus/1kapik/etc.)
    This is to those who say "I/WE are more important than Money"... You are NOT...
     
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