Greek or Roman ?

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by 7Calbrey, Aug 30, 2017.

  1. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    With Zeus on obverse, and a double cornucopia on reverse, I can identify this bronze coin as Greek. But it was struck in the year 6 B.C. during the time of Augustus in the Phoenician city of Marathos near Arados. Hence it could likely be listed as a Roman coin.
    That way we could add Marathos to the list of ancient Roman colonies. It weighs 7.72 g. There's Phoenician lettering or numeral there. BMC 37. Also Sear # 6042. Please post your comments. IF necessary, I'll post a close shot tomorrow. Thanks.. Mar O 001.jpg Marat R.jpg
     
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  3. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Do we vote? I cast a vote for Roman mainly because of the time period. Interesting booger.
     
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  4. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    If it was struck at the beginning of the Imperial period and later 27BCE - 476 CE, then it is a Roman Provincial.

    Any coin from the Greek provinces of the Roman Republic prior to 27 BCE is a Greek coin under Roman occupation.

    Don't ask me why...I didn't invent these categories
     
  5. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Nice coin :).

    Are you sure of the date of that coin? I think this type is dated although I can't discern the date in your scan (and I wouldn't be able to read the Phoenician date anyway but I know you are able to interpret Phoenician). The examples I see on ACsearch and Vcoins show a date of issue more than a century earlier.

    If it is the date you believe, are you sure of Marathos's history at that time? I haven't researched it and am only asking. If it was under some type of Roman control during the striking of your coin, I'm going to add it to the Provincials by City spreadsheet.
     
  6. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    I got the date from Wildwinds. It says : Date= 245 = 6B.C. That was found on their page of Marathos.
     
  7. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Are you able to read the Phoenician date of 245 on your coin?

    Sometimes the Wildwinds entries are incorrect or have old scholarship. I didn't see a single other example of this Marathos AE Zeus/cornucopia on ACsearch or Vcoins that was dated later than 2nd century BCE.
     
  8. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    It's likely that the W.entry is incorrect. Do you think that it's of our ethical duty to contact Dane and help improving this great site which has been and still is of great help to all of us ? Remember it has always been hacked by professional wicked intruders.
     
  9. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Perhaps, but it would be even better to track down a relevant and current book and verify the information before bringing it to her attention.

    Also, I'm not certain that your attribution is incorrect-- I'm just basing the it on the similar coins I've seen. Can you make out the Phoenician date on your coin, and have you looked for any sources of converting their dates?

    Martin Rowe has a website dedicated to coins of the southern Levant. I trust that he is current in his knowledge. He shows several of your type of coin and dates them all in the 2nd century BCE. He also has his coins on Flickr.
     
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  10. David@PCC

    David@PCC allcoinage.com

    Fantastic, wasn't expecting to see former coins of mine. Glad they are going to an enthusiast.
     
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