GTG: 1857 UK Penny

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by Obone, Aug 25, 2017.

  1. Obone

    Obone Well-Known Member

    Hi,
    Recently got this for about 130 USD in a part of a large lot at an auction. Was considering sending this in to PCGS, I would appreciate it if anyone can help me decide what grade it might get.
    Thanks in advance!
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  3. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    Very nice looking piece. Could be a nice AU. Most certainly worth sending in.
     
  4. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Incredible Photos @Obone,
    68, 69 with out the carbon spots.
    Thanks for sharing.
     
  5. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    is this the small date or large date ?
     
  6. Obone

    Obone Well-Known Member

    @Pickin and Grinin, should I send it into NCS? What do you think it would grade at without the carbon spots? MS?
    Thanks
     
  7. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Honestly I don't collect them and wouldn't know a tpgs grade on them.
    I do know that carbon spots can hold them back a grade or two.
    Yours is a real nice example,
     
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  8. coin_nut

    coin_nut Well-Known Member

    That is a really beautiful penny. I would grade it at least AU55, maybe 58.
     
  9. 7Jags

    7Jags Well-Known Member

    Very dark photo, but there looks NOT to be wear in the key spots like Brit's hand, shoulder, knee, helm & Vick's hair & cheek look good, rim edges clean and sharp with fields looking pretty good (would be hard to see any hairlines in this exposure) . I'd go 62-3 Brown.
     
  10. jj00

    jj00 Well-Known Member

    from the photo, I'd agree with @coin_nut , I'm at
    AU55-58
     
  11. Bart9349

    Bart9349 Junior Member

    I think many who have not ventured out of the realm of US coins don't realize how beautiful English / British copper can be. (The last copper penny was 1860; later they were bronze.)

    For those who can't afford to make the leap to the relatively inexpensive Victoria
    penny, there is always the less expensive (but just as spectacular) half-penny and farthing.

    Although I don't collect coins, I appreciate this price guide by Tony Clayton (who sometimes contributes here).

    http://www.coins-of-the-uk.co.uk/values/penny.html
    (Don't forget prices are in pounds, not dollars. British grading standards are a lot more strict, however.)

    Thank you for posting this penny. Although 1857 is a little too modern for me, having such a nice coin that pre-dates the American Civil War is cool.

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    (British Prime Minster Lord Palmerston 1855-58 and 1859-1865 as Secretary at War 1820.)
     
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