Falling Horseman Amiens...... sorta.

I picked up a neat FH from bargain bin ancients, thanks to a tip from @Mat.
It's a barbarous imitation of a FH from Amiens. I find it interesting because Amiens is one of the hardest mints to find FH from. Now the legends are blundered so one could argue that the mint copied could be AMB (Amiens), RMB (Rome) or ANB (Antioch) however stylistically it looks like Amiens (at least to me).

 

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Man I really love that coin.. great find! I find it really fascinating how they took the time to copy the portrait and designs but couldn't care less about the legends. Really cool coin man.

 

Thanks!
The letters were close, just not good enough to be legible. The style is not perfect either but still most resemble Amiens. Here are my Amiens FH. Doug and Martin both have some, hopefully they will post them. Ill also post some FH from Rome and Antioch for comparison.


Amiens


Rome


Antioch

 

What a simply wonderful, fascinating barb. Hours of fun researching that one.

 

Certainly copied from Amiens! It has the distinctive horizontal bands at the back of the neck.


This Gallus with clashed dies and ragged flan is the best I have seen.

 

I only have a C II Amiens. That Gallus is wonderful and the best I have seen. The BM has 4 CII and 2 CG from Amiens but no photos available.

 

What you are telling me is that CT has 4 CSII and one Gallus so we are only a Gallus short of BM level? We need to apply ourselves to this challenge. Somehow I think we will fall shorter in other areas. How do we compare to their Eastern Severans? I know they have ten times what appears in BMCRE. Many collectors have goals. Trying to match a million coin museum may just be overly lofty.

 

That's cool! More interesting than the official issue!

 

A neat coin I was tempted to buy myself, but it deserved to be with a specialist then a scatter collector!

 

I have two Magnentius pieces from Amiens. Here is one:


DN MAGNEN-TIVS PF AVG
VICTORIAE DD NN AVG ET CAES
Two victories, shield with VOT V MVLT X, cross-rho above
AMB*
RIC 27

 

Thanks all and thanks again @Mat

Read my mind

 

I am attempting to do some work in the background on eastern Severans though it is slow going. I started with the IMP II issue. The BM has 40 examples. Barry had 15 examples. I am not sure how many you have Doug. I have 47 examples some of which are ex-Barry. There are types in the BM that I don't have and there are some that I have that they don't. I am also trawling through a range of international museum databases, acsearch, wildwinds etc. finding additional examples. When I have all this collated I was going to try and put my results for this online. Then move on to other issues.

 

I know I wasn't invited to post, but I'm not known here and neither is my collection, so no surprises there. Anywho, I wanted to put this up because I think the "barbs" were closer on the style for the reverse than what you might think from the other examples shown. It all depends on their exemplar. Here is a 20mm reduced module AE2 for CsII from Amiens in my collection:



Compare that reverse with the OP coin (reposted here):

To my eye the details on the reverses are strikingly similar. What do you think?

 

Great coin. If you wait to be invited to post around here then the thread has usually passed you by.

 

Very similar. Thanks for posting it, a very sweet coin! I just need to find another
Gallus and we'll have the BM beat.

Your comments are always welcome

 

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Absolutely! Post in any thread or start your own thread. All are automatically invited.

 

Didn't feel like this one should get it's own thread but still wanted to share it.
It's seems both over and under cleaned.


Constans
23mm 6.08g
D N CONSTANS P F AVG, pearl-diademed, draped and cuirassed bust right / FEL TEMP REPARATIO, Constans standing left on prow of galley holding phoenix and labarum, Victory at helm, star in right field. Mintmark ALEΔ.
Alexandria
RIC VIII 53

 

Looking at all these beautiful ancients you folks have posted, why would anyone buy a modern proof?

 

Modern proofs are a marketing gimmick designed to illicite an extra premium from your pocket. Ancients, in whatever condition, represent real placemarkers in Human History. There were no proofs then. There were real coins for humans to transact real trade.