Grade and price me old coin please

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by nohope587, Oct 4, 2007.

  1. nohope587

    nohope587 Senior Member

    Just wondering if anyone would care to assign a grade and price to this coin.
    Anyone care to attribute it as well?

    Thank you far taking the time out of you busy day to do this.
    Speedy you are to sit this one out as i suspect you know the answers.

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  3. gopher29

    gopher29 Coin Hoarder

  4. rotobeast

    rotobeast Old Newbie

    Oh, man...
    Someone hold Clembo down !
    :D

    AU-58 (slight wear on the leaves & small flat spot on obv edge)
    $70-$80 maybe.
    There are a couple of spots that look to me where it might have had light cleaning done, but the overall eye appeal makes me forget any of those spots.

    Nice Coin !
    :)
     
  5. USS656

    USS656 Here to Learn Supporter

    I would say 63 or 62 RB. The book says 63 has to have some luster and pictures don't show any? That ding on the rim makes me think 62 - but then I have no experience at grading so I could be way off?

    Price: $120 - totally a guess

    Beautiful coin!!!

    Darryl
     
  6. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    nice coin, and welcome to the forum.
    I believe that it is an unc.
    But, that's why I don't work for a TPG'er.

    Also, no attribution noted, no variety noted.
     
  7. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    :D :D And might I add that this is a really nice coin!!

    Speedy
     
  8. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Gonna say MS65 RB - gorgeous coin :thumb: $500 - $600
     
  9. clembo

    clembo A closed mind is no mind

    Nicer than the 66 in my #1 set!

    Not sure it would make RB status though from the pics of the reverse. Damn nice coin though and I'd peg it at MS64 no problem with a good shot at MS65. I'd give it RB but not sure about a legit service.

    Leaves are often softly struck as are motto and shield Roto. This is an MS coin no doubt. NO cleaning either. They can tone real weird and this is a good example.
    1866 is actually a tough date to find in higher grades although price guides don't indicate same.

    Just to make myself clear THIS IS NOT AN OFFER but I would pay $250-300 for that coin in a raw state.

    A real beauty and thanks for sharing with the "Two Cent Junkie"
     
  10. nohope587

    nohope587 Senior Member

  11. clembo

    clembo A closed mind is no mind


    NICE!

    Looks like I met another "junkie" as you're using Flynns book and Breen.
    SO much variety in such a short series.

    Thanks for sharing that.

    clembo
     
  12. USS656

    USS656 Here to Learn Supporter

    Wow - those are nice - thanks for sharing!!!
     
  13. rotobeast

    rotobeast Old Newbie

    Thanks for straightening me out, Clembo.
    I wasn't aware of the soft strike in those areas.
    Is that also the case on the "IN" in the ribbon, in this case.
    It could be the pic, but I'm trying to further my education on these beauties.
    :)
     
  14. coleguy

    coleguy Coin Collector

    Don't know the grade, but it's a nice find! It seems every time I find a nice example, the "WE" on the ribbon is always worn almost smooth, no matter how nice the rest of the coin is. Don't know if they're struck like that sometimes or what. Great detail!
    Guy~
     
  15. JeromeLS

    JeromeLS Coin Fanatic

    Low MS grade. Not sharp enough, and not enough lustre to get a top grade. Still about $180.
     
  16. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    ok, having come to this party late, and looking at something that is so neyond the realm of what I know, I will offer this bit of conjecture.

    The coin exhibits a very nice strike for a mid-19th century US coin. I wonder if it is a proof strikebecause of the almost squared dentils, but were I to hazard a guess, I don't think that they made many if any of these in proof. I think it is definately MS, and quite possibly gem. The color is not quite enough red to be RB in my opinion, but what color is there absolutely makes this coin an eye grabber!

    If I was the TPG... MS-65BN (I hope I haven't just turned myself into SEGS...rofl) and price about $200

    hey! that's an idea for a new thread... "If I Were the TPG..."
     
  17. clembo

    clembo A closed mind is no mind


    I've been playing with them for years Roto and they still baffle me at times.

    Problems you'll see on them include grease filled dies - I've seen a lot of those. The ANA guide points out the sometimes even on MS coins the horizontal shield lines will not be full.
    WE is often the first detail to disappear as it's a high point.

    As for things I've noticed that a lot of people don't mention like I said the 1866 can be surprisingly hard to find in high grades. My friend (who's got the cash to spare) started a PCGS set after he saw mine. Told him 66 would be tough - eventually he agreed.

    1867 is often weakly struck. If I find a VF or better with a strong WE I usually buy it. I had a dealer show me an NGC MS64RB that had no hint of WE.

    The series is full of repunched dates, die cracks and rotated dies. Just a fun coin to collect.

    clembo
     
  18. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Nice collection - glad I came back to this thread.
     
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