Claudius II Gothicus

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  1. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    I just received this coin won in @John Anthony 's recent auction in the mail today. Claudius only reigned for two years but won a significant victory over the Goths during his tenure. He is one of the emperors who ended the "Crisis of the Third Century" which had afflicted the Roman Empire since the 230's.

    AE antoninianus, 3.4g, 20mm
    Mediolanum (Milan) mint
    Obverse: IMP CLAVDIVS PF AVG
    Radiate, draped, cuirassed bust right
    Reverse: FELI-C T-EMPO; Felicitas standing left, holding cadeucus and scepter
    Reference: RIC Va 145, p. 223
    From the Doug Smith Collection #3175 (Thanks Doug)

    I rather like the coin for its sharp detail. Feel free to post your Claudians here

    claud1.jpg

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  3. Ancient Aussie

    Ancient Aussie Well-Known Member

    I like the portrait on your coin ancient coin hunter caught my eye as well. My only Claudius from that period. 2Xsoa9xCZcA7D5wHqHL63tbFsS4nM8.jpg
     
  4. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    Fantastic portrait. Overall a very lovely coin. Shame I didn't notice that coin because I would have bid on it too. I'm still missing him from my collection.
     
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  5. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Guys, please, if you are going to fight over my old coins, do it before the auction closes. I was surprised that the coin survived its first outing in JA's sales with no bids but I guess people found it unattractive due to the legend loss. I simply have too many coins of Claudius II Gothicus and decided several had to go. Interest was minimal. I like Claudius partly due to his strong portraits. He was known as Gothicus for his successes against the Goths but coins bearing that name were not issued until after his death. My only example is not bold on the important part of the legend but it is what it is.
    DIVO CLAVDIO GOTHICO / CONSECRATIO
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    I find interest in the issue of coins honoring Claudius II under Constantine I who claimed to be a descendant of his. The claim recorded in Scriptores Historiae Augustae was that Claudius's niece was the mother of Constantius I. It is fashionable to discount all of SHA as fabrication and there is a lot of augmentation of the truth in the works so accepting all is at least as foolish as dismissing all. Whatever the situation, Constantine included Claudius in his series of departed ancestors. Notice the face looks a lot more like Constantine than like Claudius.
    DIVO CLAVDIO OPTIMO IMP / REQVIES OPTIMO RVM MERITORVM TSA Thessalonika mint
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  6. Smojo

    Smojo dreamliner

    I recall seeing that one, nice portrait.
    I have a couple from Claudius II, But this one I also acquired from JA is the better of them.
    claud_securitas_6 (1).jpg
    The other I don't recall offhand where I got it from, had it a couple years. The portrait is decent but like many other Claudius II bronze the reverse isn't the best.
    Claudius II-Gothicus Fides[RIC149]05-RE.jpg
     
  7. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Nice steal @ancient coin hunter ! It is always good to thieve from that @John Anthony guy...he just handles too many coins... :)

    My Claudius II's ... did I get these from Doug???

    RI Claudius II 268-270 BI Ant Fortuna Obv-Rev.jpg
    RI Claudius II 268-270 BI Ant Fortuna

    RI Claudius II 268-270 CE BI Ant Neptune Stndg dolphin trident.jpg
    RI Claudius II 268-270 CE BI Ant Neptune Stndg dolphin trident
     
  8. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Great posts and I LOVE that OP portrait!!!

    I grabbed a 'Gothico' that I came across...and it's because Doug posted his example and made me aware of it.:mad:;):D

    claudius Gothicus and Gothico legend.jpg
     
  9. Multatuli

    Multatuli Homo numismaticus

    Excellent coins and posts! Fantastic portraits! Here the only two in my collection. None in good conditions...
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    RIC V 261, 270 A.D.; obverse DIVO CLAVDIO, radiate head right; reverse CONSECRATIO, flaming altar.

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    RIC V 109, Rome mint, obverse: IMP C CLAVDIVS AVG, radiate, draped, and cuirassed bust right, from behind; reverse: VIRTVS AVG, Virtus standing left holding spear and branch, shield at feet.
     
  10. LaCointessa

    LaCointessa Well-Known Member

    Hi everybody!

    I'm not sure whether this is a Claudian. It is one of the saddest in a group of uncleaned ancients I was cleaning. I haven't been able to make out any of the legend on the obverse. And since I suspect it may be diseased, I probably won't do anything more to it and just keep it in quarantine. From the features of the face and the reverse, do you think it may be a Claudian? Claudio II Maybe.png
     
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  11. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

  12. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    It appears to be a 'Divo Claudio' type...like the one above your post and this one...


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  13. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's Claudius II.

    What's that trippy background?! It kind of messes with my head! LOL!

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    That's a great portrait ACH!!!
     
  14. Smojo

    Smojo dreamliner

    Why do you think it is diseased?
    Curious because I don't see it from the photo (I'm stuck useing my phone so small view).
    It sure looks like Gothicus.
     
  15. Multatuli

    Multatuli Homo numismaticus

    Claudius Gothicus, definitely. Consecratio type.
     
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  16. LaCointessa

    LaCointessa Well-Known Member

    Thanks!
    But...then...
    shouldn't he be wearing this head gear?;)

    Devo Claudius Head Gear.jpg
     
  17. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    LOL "Craaack that Whip!"
     
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  18. LaCointessa

    LaCointessa Well-Known Member


    errr ummm..like...what background?!? :D
     
  19. LaCointessa

    LaCointessa Well-Known Member

    Thanks. I'm still learning and I notice I am super cautious (maybe unreasonably so) about guarding against that coin disease (bronze rot?). The lower part of the obverse looks not good to me. Something about the way the top strata (I guess I want to call it) is missing. Flaked off. The surface of the coin feels hard but I wouldn't keep fooling around with it trying to see more and I wouldn't wet it again.

    I'm glad, though, if it does not look diseased.
     
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  20. LaCointessa

    LaCointessa Well-Known Member

    Gothicus, huh?
    Sounds cool.
    Will have to check that out.
    Thank you (and everyone) very much for the feedback.
     
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  21. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Nice score! This ubiquitous and typically off-centered Consecratio was one of the first coins I ever bought.

    claudius ii divo.jpg
    A more recent pick up is this left-facing antoninianus from Antioch.

    Claudius II - Sol Avg.jpg
     
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