A bit odd (to me)

So a short while back I saw a nice FTR Galley, but it looked a little odd (lower left) along with a odd (to me) looking FTR phoenix (bottom) from a seller in Germany. Not to much later, a die match pops up (lower right), from another seller in Germany. Tonight the top 2 galleys popped up for sale from the previous seller.

The parts that look odd to me are the eyes, the front bottom 4 pearls, the O in reparatio as well as some wear and high points. Are these from re-carved dies, or something dubious?

 

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I'd treat these as guilty until proven innocent.

 

Ive seen these in the wild in Europe in just this combination several times over the last years. They are fake without a doubt.
I think they are identical to the ones shown here: http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/ric/fakes2009.htm

 

There are a few in the Forvm fake reports.



They are trying to copy something like mine:-

 

Thanks all. I should have checked forvm

 

I think I may try and get one, if cheap.

 

I contacted the seller to let him know, just in case it was a mistake.

 

Please let us know if you hear from the seller. Thanks. And if you don't, please post the seller's name.

 

Something about them is a bit off, hard to put a finger on but I definitely get that feeling.

 

These are from modern dies. The tell on the Galley is the diagonal detailing on the staff and the Dot for an O at the end of the reverse legend.

 

I wrote:
Hello. This coin is a modern fake/counterfeit from Serbia, 2009. You've had several coins from this group with 2 listed right now. See below:

http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/ric/fakes2009.htm

I can provide further links if you would like.

He wrote back

"es sind keine feälschungen." Google translate: "There are no forgeries."


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Romische-Mu...569770?hash=item5b3ca6846a:g:rEYAAOSwH6tZir75


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Romische-Mu...174221?hash=item48a0c9064d:g:c7MAAOSwTYxZisAv