Souvenir Mint Set Envelopes - Font Used

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  1. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    The forum sort of takes care of that by itself. Ask a question to everyone in the forum that's the closest match, and if the specialist you seek doesn't see it right away, someone who knows who should look tags them and they get a notification, like how cpm9ball did above.

    One problem with having lots of subgroups is that as a forum becomes more and more fragmented, it becomes harder to use. This was one of NGC's mistakes.
     
    messydesk, Aug 8, 2017
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  3. Histman

    Histman Too Many Coins, Not Enough Time!

    The alternative, however, is to have people take shots at your post or make snarky comments instead of just supplying an answer. As above!
     
    Histman, Aug 8, 2017
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  4. Histman

    Histman Too Many Coins, Not Enough Time!

    So what's your suggestions then? One member says "ask somebody directly instead of posting to a forum," another says "post it the forum, we don't need sub-forums." We can't have it both ways. My suggestion was meant as a compromise considering the suggestion was made that I ought to ask someone directly about the topic I posted about. If I don't know who those "experts" are, and yes that can be a subjective determination, how am I to ask them directly? It appears some members are real quick to criticize or make snarky comments about a post without offering any actual substantive advice. If that is how we want to treat OPs when we are exacerbated by questions members feel are irrelevant, repetitive, or lacking in knowledge, then we won't be successful in the mission of this site. Unless I am totally missing the point of this site?
     
    Histman, Aug 8, 2017
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  5. cladking

    cladking Coin Collector

    These sets appear to have been run off in batches of a few thousand at a time based on expected sales. There are several years with different packaging. Generally these differences are not very large.
     
    cladking, Aug 9, 2017
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  6. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    There are two entirely different issues involved in your comments. In my previous response of - I think we got all the categories we need. That's what I think. - I was speaking as one of the two admins of this website. That's issue number 1.

    Ya see, what you don't you realize is that there have been literally thousands of suggestions to add this category or that category (meaning a new forum section). Thousands of them, that is not an exaggeration. So imagine what this website would be like when trying to navigate it if we had 20-30 or more pages of different forum sections. It would be utter chaos. What I'm trying to get you to realize is that when it comes to creating a forum there is a fine line between how many is enough categories and how many are too dang many of them ?

    Issue number two was your suggestion of - "But, how about an area/forum that lists or identifies a member with a particular specialty?"

    That suggestion creates several problems. Only one of which I addressed in my previous comments. Namely - who decides which forum member is identified as having a particular specialty, and who decides if that member is even qualified to answer questions on a specific subject ? But another problem would be where exactly would these new forum sections be put ? And how many of them would there be ?

    Think about that for a minute. With just US coins alone you would need literally hundreds of new forum sections, one for each specific type, where questions could be asked and answers provided by an "expert" on that specific type. Then you'd have to do the same thing with all the different coin types from all the different countries.

    And if you tried to put all these "experts" together in just 1 new forum section, what would you have then ? You'd have coins from all over the world, all of the different types, all mixed together in 1 forum section. Can you imagine anybody trying to find something specific in that ?

    And then there's another problem. Even if you created all these new forum sections where "experts" could answer, who's to say these "experts" even would answer ? I mean, they would have to be willing to do so wouldn't they ?

    And lastly, how would we keep all the people who are not "experts" from replying and giving their 2 cents worth on any given subject, in any or all of these specialized forum sections ?

    In the end, we'd have pretty much what we have now, except we'd have a whole lot more different forum sections to have to navigate through.

    Short and sweet that's why thing are the way they are. That's why the forum is set up the way it is with generalized forum sections that allow at least a modicum of separation for different subject matter. Too little is bad, and too much is equally bad, and potentially much worse.

    So what is my suggestion ? Leave things the way they are. It's as good as we can make it.
     
    GDJMSP, Aug 9, 2017
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  7. Histman

    Histman Too Many Coins, Not Enough Time!

    I appreciate the site the way it is and actually enjoy it more than the other five sites I belong to. However, what I don't appreciate is comments directed at me or others who create posts about coin issues that matter to them, but that may seem inconsequential, irrelevant, repetitive, or tiresome to members that have resided here for a longer period of time. It drives off potential quality members and newbies to the hobby because they feel unwelcome. I know as site moderators/administrators, you can't control how people feel, but I see it over and over again. It hurts, what I believe, is our purpose.
     
    Histman, Aug 9, 2017
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  8. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    Unfortunately that is the nature of the internet.

    What you should do about it is this:

    Treat it like the rest of the internet. Understand that while the answer you seek is likely available to you with minimal effort, it's going to be wrapped in a sea of bad information, hate, and irrelevant or misguided messages.

    The good thing is that with a small amount of work, you can figure out what is what, and that's the nature of this medium, you have to separate the wheat from the chaff yourself.
     
    mikenoodle, Aug 9, 2017
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  9. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I'd go a step further than that. That is the nature of people. On the internet, face to face, it doesn't matter. People are people and they are gonna be who they are.
     
    GDJMSP, Aug 10, 2017
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  10. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    You're right, Doug. The internet hasn't changed the nature of people, it just placed more of them in the room with us.
     
    mikenoodle, Aug 10, 2017
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