This post does not pertain to the original posters coin. This is why I thought die clashes were explained like indirect design transfer. http://www.error-ref.com/progressive-indirect-design-transfer/ Ha i remember when I first started, someone told me this phenomenon is called a die clash when in fact it's called indirect design transfer and that's what I got die clashes confused with. For someone who doesn't know what a clash is, I'd say I did the best I could with the knowledge I had. Ha