Found this 1989 Penny with lines, any idea what they might be?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Murillo, Aug 7, 2017.

  1. Murillo

    Murillo Well-Known Member

    Hello, I hope I'm posting this on the right page this time. I found this penny and noticed these lines by Lincoln's face and by the word Liberty, kind of looks like the pillars of the Lincoln Memorial on the back of the penny. Just my opinion of course this is why I'm asking anyone on Coin Talk what your opinion might be.

    Thank you.
     

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  3. Tyler Graton

    Tyler Graton Well-Known Member

    That is a die Clash, it is where the reverse of the coin was probably pounded a little too hard and it shows through to the obverse. I think that's how it works. Those lines are the memorial building showing through
     
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  4. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    Die clashes happen when there is no planchet in the hub and the dies literally strike each other leaving a faint outline of the other die. They then appear on the coin as subsequent coins are struck with that set of damaged dies. I would think that they carry a bit of a premium, but I have no idea what that may be.
     
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  5. Tyler Graton

    Tyler Graton Well-Known Member

    Ahhh I would listen to @Kirkuleez that sounds about right. I see a few on eBay going for 5,15,25 bucks give it take a few dollars
     
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  6. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Are those asking prices or completed prices?

    Chris
     
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  7. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    :hilarious: Haha
    If you are not sure how it happens then you should not comment. And I mean this in a constructive way. Kirkuleez has the correct explanation.
     
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  9. Tyler Graton

    Tyler Graton Well-Known Member

    I explained what someone else explained to me. I didn't realize that there had to be a missing plantchet and the die hits each other. I seem to learn as I find errors and I haven't found this yet, so i haven't really read up on it. Next time I'll just read up on it.
     
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  10. Murillo

    Murillo Well-Known Member

    Thank you everyone for your quick response. Great information!!
     
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  11. Tyler Graton

    Tyler Graton Well-Known Member

    I don't know. Look it up. I saw 5 bucks and that's what I would pay.
     
  12. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Man you better get back to that person and tell them they are so wrong! :facepalm:
     
  13. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Sorry, Tyler, but you were the one who quoted the prices. It should have been your responsibility to inform the OP of the difference between buy & sell prices.

    Chris
     
  14. Tyler Graton

    Tyler Graton Well-Known Member

    Maybe they just forgot to mention the missing plantchet and I saw it how my mind understood it. It's okay. The coin gods will forgive me.
     
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  15. Tyler Graton

    Tyler Graton Well-Known Member

    -sigh- I give up. You are being ridiculous. Shake my head* people will pay what they want to pay. The 1982 was thought to be worth way more than 18 grand but that's how much it selled for. The fact that I have to explain people will pay what they want to pay for with their money. Whatever amount that is, is not incorrect!!!!
     
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  16. Tyler Graton

    Tyler Graton Well-Known Member

    I thought you knew that eBay was auction house. Prices are a variety in its self. Things that are worth 50grand can be sold for 5 bucks.
     
  17. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    Don't be too hard on yourself, Tyler. You've been here for a little while and just got a little tough love. Should you have known this by now? Don't know, but you've been learning. However, it is important that the answers be as accurate as possible so new collectors won't be confused. You never know when a thread will show up in a search.
     
  18. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    @Murillo Nice example of a clashed die. I found a few of these back in the 80's (the mint apparently had poor QC). Generally, they're worth less than a buck, but it is still nice keeper.
     
  19. steve.e

    steve.e Cherry picker

    Very nice die clash!!! As the name of the error implies the hammer die and the anvil die clash together with no planchet between. This leaves an image of one on the other. Then when a blank is introduced you get your coin. Values can vary greatly. I think this coin would easily go for $5 to $10. Just in case the above urination contest left you confused. I tried to explain as simply as I could. Nice coin
     
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  20. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    At one of the last shows I was at, a dealer had several pages of these and he was selling them for $1. I would have paid $2 but not more. I have to take a picture sometime. @Tyler Graton don't feel too bad, I know I have done the same thing and then had to have a couple of bites of crow...mmmmm...a little like chicken. :)
     
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  21. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    Wow, I always considered these minor errors. I need to dig mine out and sell them. Probably have about 5 or 6 in AU/MS the that I picked from change 30 years ago.
     
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