1992 Kennedy half Double clipped planchet?

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  1. jon21

    jon21 New Member

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    What are your guys thoughts on this?
     
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  3. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    Looks like a double clipped to me. It's been through the trenches, though.
     
  4. jon21

    jon21 New Member

    Yup surprised no one pulled this one sooner. Looks like it has seen some better days
     
  5. Tyler Graton

    Tyler Graton Well-Known Member

    To me it looks a little too scratched up to be a clip. It's supposed to look like a clean cut. Edge should be smooth. To me it looks like someone cut it but then again I don't see clipped planchets everyday. I only assume that it would be smoother looking because this is what a plantchet look like after it was cut IMG_2100.JPG
    @paddyman98 is a pro at spotting these so i would wait for his response and listen closely
     
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  6. Swan

    Swan A millon dollars short of being a millionaire

    Don't clipped planchets usually have a curve to them?
     
  7. Tyler Graton

    Tyler Graton Well-Known Member

    Not all. Jims coins has one that looks pretty straight. That's why they have classifications for types of curves. You may see pcgs label it as a "curved clip" meaning that there could be other types of clips
     
  8. jon21

    jon21 New Member

    It does look pretty rough in the picture but it is very smooth to the touch. Also, it seems weird that the lettering is faded in "united" and "America". Thats the reason I didn't think that someone cut it.
     
  9. Tyler Graton

    Tyler Graton Well-Known Member

    I see what you are saying. not saying you are wrong. I do see the rim acting up before and after the clip. If it's smooth though, and no metal is sharply hanging off the edge. It's most likely a doubled clip. When you run your finger over the clip do you feel any bumps? Even if they are smooth bumps.
     
  10. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Looks good to me. We'll need an expert.
    I agree that this coin has been in circulation a long time, and no one took it out.
    (Till now). Is this one that should have the Blakesley effect?

    The Blakesley effect occurs on most genuine clipped planchet error coins and is characterized by weakness in the rim opposite the clipped end of the coin.
    The Blakesley Effect is a term used to describe inefficient metal flow, opposite a clip on a coin ( "opposite a clip on a coin" it means the effect will be more or less CW/CCW180 degrees around the rim) from the clipped area., when the rim is formed and the subsequent imperfect or incomplete rim formed at that position after striking.
    To tell whether or not your coin exhibits the Blakesley effect, simply check the rim of the coin directly opposite the clip. If it appears the details are lacking in that area and the rim appears flat, then it is more than likely that you have a genuine clipped planchet error.
    Clipped planchets occur when a thin strip of coining metal is fed into a machine for blanks to be punched out. Sometimes the strip of metal will not be properly fed into the punch, which causes a blank to be punched out that overlaps the spot where an earlier blank was punched out.
     
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  11. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    Edges are not immune to hits and wear.
     
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  12. jon21

    jon21 New Member

    It is smooth other than some scratches which look like normal circulation when compared to the rest of the coin
     
  13. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    The clips are opposite each other. They cancel out any possible Blakesley effect.
     
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  14. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Yes I was looking at the clips being opposite each other. And I just wondered if there was still some sign of the effect on the edges.
     
  15. Tyler Graton

    Tyler Graton Well-Known Member

    There are some clipped planchet errors that have been pcgs graded and didn't have any blankelsy effect at all and it was a radical clip. Blankelsy is kind of like "when in doubt, if blankelsy is there, it's a clipped planchet. If it's clipped, and no blankelsy effect is seen, then you should have it looked at if you know nothing". That's how blankelsy sits in my minds eye
     
  16. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    @jon21
    I say yes to Double Clipped Planchet

    Here are some from my collection -
    Single, Double and Triple Clipped :woot:
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  17. Tyler Graton

    Tyler Graton Well-Known Member

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  18. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    There is no N in Blakesley.
     
  19. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    Curved, straight and ragged.;)
     
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  20. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Correct.... From my collection :woot:
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  21. Tyler Graton

    Tyler Graton Well-Known Member

    Nmmkay. Mmkay. I'm learning. lol sweet ow I think I got the clips down.
     
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