1889-CC & 1893-S Morgans

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by jared530, Sep 19, 2007.

  1. AdamL

    AdamL Well-Known Member

    Pull it!
    ASAP
     
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  3. jared530

    jared530 Junior Member

    Are you sure they are fakes? Im not 100% what they are. I understand that everyone here knows what they are talking about so ill take your word for it. And i do not want to get in trouble with the feds.

    So im going to pull it.

    Thanks for the imput
     
  4. DJCoinz

    DJCoinz Majored in Morganology

    First off, welcome to the forum.
    The 93-S is definitely fake. Can't tell for sure 'bout the 89-CC or the 95-O but they both look funky and are probably fake as well. It would be very wise to pull all three of the auctions. Pronto.
     
  5. jared530

    jared530 Junior Member

    Will do, sorry for wasting everyones time.
     
  6. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Or not.
     
  7. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    That is the thing---if you aren't sure then you shouldn't even be thinking about selling it. I don't think you would want to go out and pay over $1600 for a coin to find out that the owner didn't know if it was real or fake so he just decided to sell it and let you end up with a fake coin......

    You didn't waste anyones time---and I hope you stay around and keep learning about coins!!!

    Speedy
     
  8. USS656

    USS656 Here to Learn Supporter

    has anyone looked at the bid history? Somewhat odd.
     
  9. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    yup, just two competing bidders.
    Or shill bidding.
     
  10. jared530

    jared530 Junior Member

    wow i wasnt shill bidding. everyone just assumes im crook
     
  11. DJCoinz

    DJCoinz Majored in Morganology

    I didn't assume you're a crook. Lot's of the ebay auctions that get posted here are total scams, so don't take it personally. :)
     
  12. jared530

    jared530 Junior Member

    Alright. So your saying ebay has alot of fake coins? Wow, i didnt know it was that bad
     
  13. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Welcome to the forum!

    Yep - hang around this forum and learn. I am glad to see you pulled the one auction I looked at. I would recommend taking the coins to a local dealer. If they are real then get them certified.
     
  14. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    I don't know what you definition of "alot" is. eBay probably sells 200,000 coins a week. This place finds something like 10 fakes a week and I am sure that they do not catch them all. As a guess, there are probably 100 fakes per week. That sounds like quite a few, but still it is only 0.05% of sales.
     
  15. USS656

    USS656 Here to Learn Supporter


    jared530,

    Lets pretend we were not having this conversation, here's what I saw as an eBay shopper:

    2 bidders
    Names almost identical
    shopping habits over the same period almost identical
    neither one come up on community search
    you have only had 20 transactions


    None of this is necessarily your fault (unless you were shill bidding - which you have clarified you were not) - but if I was looking to buy this coin - all of these facts (regardless of the coin) would be a BIG RED FLAG. That was my point, not calling you a crook, very glad you pulled the auction though!!! If the buyer learned it was fake and had it confirmed by a reputable source, the feedback would ruin your ability to sell coins in the future. Like Mark said, take the coin to a dealer, and if he says they are absolutely genuine then I would send the 93 to a TPG to get certified. If people are willing to bid $1,600 for the coin, it should be certified.

    Good Luck - hope it all works out!
     
  16. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    By the way---I think the reason the names looked the same is because of the "*" that you see....that is the new ebay rule....after a bid goes over a limit such as maybe $200 all of the names end up with * in them....

    Speedy
     
  17. jared530

    jared530 Junior Member

    No hard feelings. Im sort of new to the internet auctions so i probabaly wouldnt pay that close of attention to the bidding historys and all that.
     
  18. USS656

    USS656 Here to Learn Supporter

    Thanks Speedy, Have not been paying much attention to the new ebay rules thing so it's good to learn about that! Clears up my question about the bidding history. The buying activity of the two bidders still was a little strange in that they were very similar.

    Jared530

    Everyone should pay very close attention to the eBay sale from the seller and his feedback to people that are bidding. You can learn a lot about the auction by looking at these things. It's like driving past a store and sizing up if you want to go in.

    Best Regards,

    Darryl
     
  19. davedawg

    davedawg New Member

    speaking of not cleaning coins, I've come across hundreds of coins that are obviously cleaned or rubbed at the date and motto like the person was playing a scratch off ticket, I guess to check for double dies or errors. This seems like the dumbest thing I can think of because even if you do reveal an error, haven't you just severely devalued the coin and defeated the purpose of searching in the first place?
     
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