I found this coin in my collection but don't know were from or if gold or other material any ideas Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
Hi, your first coin is a 1/2 cedid mahmudiye from Constantinople mint, Ottoman Empire (Turkey). Guessing from relative size. It is dated 1223 AH, year 28, or about 1834 AD. It should be about 0.7g and 83% gold. Color looks a bit off though. Km#644.
I agree with Ottoman Empire 1223AH but I think the reign year is 18 and the coin is silver, not gold. Maybe KM578 5 Para . My older Krause volume doesn't give much info or pics, but it looks similar to the year 15,16 5 para. The 1 Para is listed at .600 silver so that could explain the off color and tarnish/corrosion around the devices. That's my best guess, but getting an ID for 19th century Ottoman/Egyptian coins from Krause can be challenging
The first one is a common novelty copy of an Ottoman coin, used for adornments. It is made of base metal rather than precious. They are often referred to as kuchi coins.
Ah yes. I almost forgot that they are also a nomadic tribe. Which reminds me to give a correction on Arabic. It was Daari that kuchi means dog. I forgot which country I learned that in.
I had a total deja vu moment and sure enough, we had this same conversation a couple years back. The beauty of forums, more effective learning through repetition https://www.cointalk.com/threads/holed-turkish-coins.272302/#post-2304670 That is where I learned of the Kochi nomads association to the word as well lol