1798 bust dollar

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by coinnut, Sep 18, 2007.

  1. coinnut

    coinnut Senior Member

    This is a coin I am considering bidding on,not going to say which auction,
    I think i have a chance.
    Was wondering what grade others would assign it.
    Please advise.
     

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  3. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I wouldn't bid - I don't think it's real. Let's change that to I know it isn't
     
  4. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    I'm with GDJMSP -- the date looks wrong to me. I am anything but an expert on these coins though...

    Even if it were real, the gashes, rim dings, and other problems would have me running scared.

    This is an auction I would PASS on. You can do better.

    All IMHO, respectfully submitted...Mike
     
  5. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    p.s. if you are going to try and buy these coins, but don't have the ability to spot counterfeits, you might consider buying one in a net graded ANACS slab. THat way you are ensured of getting a real coin. Good luck!
     
  6. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    This is what a genuine 1798 dollar looks like - 1798 dollar
     
  7. dreamer94

    dreamer94 Coin Collector

    CoinFacts has another 1798 with a shield reverse.

    Was there something else that made you think it was counterfeit?
     
  8. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Quite right, but count the stars on the one posted here, I only see 12. Look at the bust and how close it is to the right side of the coin. Then look at the star next to the Y and look at the one on the genuine coin. There is more, but I think that is enough.
     
  9. Bedford

    Bedford Lackey For Coin Junkies

    The nose ,the hair curls ,the date ,the stars - It screams fake -:loud: RUN RUN,RUN
     
  10. coinnut

    coinnut Senior Member

    Thanks guys

    I see the differences compared with the ones that you guys
    have provided links to.
    I'll pass on this one
    Thanks guys for saving me alot of money
     
  11. bqcoins

    bqcoins Olympic Figure Skating Scoring System Expert

    Good catch crew
     
  12. seatedime

    seatedime New Member

    I was the seller of this coin

    I was alerted to this post from another PCGS member so this is my first post here.

    This coin is 100% Genunie. I would offer 100% refund if ANACS did not authentic it.

    As this auction has ended and I have not relisted it it really does not matter so this is just for the record.

    It is a B-8 (BB-125) and a late die state. Probably BB D/S IV. I am 100% positive the coin is not fake.

    I hope this clears this up for everyone.

    Jason
     
  13. coleguy

    coleguy Coin Collector

    I agree, it doesn't look genuine. The word "UNITED" on the reverse isn't even close to being in the right alignment.
    Guy~
     
  14. seatedime

    seatedime New Member

    With all due respect there are over 30 varieties of the 1798 Dollar. You are making an incorrect assumption
     
  15. seatedime

    seatedime New Member

    let me help you guys

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    Look at the late stage die crack at 5:00 O clock runing from the rim through the C into the Shield.

    100% real
     
  16. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

  17. Prophet

    Prophet Its like chasing the wind

    I think Im gonna agree with seatedime on this one. The wear is in the appropriate areas as well, if you will notice the wear areas on the other pics posted. This one just has considerably more wear in the same areas.

    Edit; Whoops leadfoot didnt see your post)
     
  18. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Mike:
    I was wondering how everyone could unequivocably state NG.

    There are so many varieties that I could never tell, unless researched.

    Reiver has a good reference on the varieties for those who care to read it.
    (I don't, I am not going to collect them, and then, only certified, I don't trust myself enough).
     
  19. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

    A very good lesson in teamwork

    I think this is a good lesson in teamwork, and education. Alsi, I noted the post did not have the auction, therefore did not disclose the seller. I think that is a good thing, I will do that in the future when I question things. I have been wrong also, and it is unfair to put the honesty of a seller in question, especially when only asking.

    Well done !!:cool:
     
  20. seatedliberty

    seatedliberty New Member

    I have no knowledge of Bust Dollars at all, I couldn't spot a real from a fake.


    But I do know this seller very well (not personally). And he would absolutely never sell a fake coin.

    He is very knowledgable, and I don't believe he has any need to try and pass off a fake Bust Dollar.
     
  21. gopher29

    gopher29 Coin Hoarder

    That's great that you're here to vouch for his character. But seeing how you just joined today and this is only your third post, how much credence should we give that statement.
     
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