is this a forgery

I bought this on ebay because the man on coin is a relative, but i have doubts on whether this coin is genuine, the diameter of coin is 1 mm larger than coins of that period, the rim is bigger than others I've seen, any expert opinion would be appreciated.

 

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It is supposed to be China 1912 Y321.1. The seller said he bought the coin 20 years from coin shop on east coast.

 

I don't know squat about Chinese coins, but why would a coin supposedly from China , first of all be in "Dollars" and not Yen, and second, in English? I'm probably wrong, but I'd guess it's some sort of commemorative from the 50's or 60's by a secondary mint.
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I sure don't know why, but a lot of their dollars are in Engish, just look in Krause.

 

You are related to Li Yuan-hung? Lot of coins from China have english on them and they used the denomination of Dollar. I see what you mean by the rim and it looks soft but then again that might just be the photography like the color...dont know

Its V#321 Dollar (yuan)...It should be silver a the weight should be 26.5000 g

VG 17.50 F 50.00 VF 100 XF 150 UNC 250

 

There has never been a Chinese coin denominated in Yen, which is a Japanese denomination for coins from 1870 to date. Not even the Manchuko and other Japanese occupation coins from WW II China are denominated in Yen.

The wide rim on the pictured "coin" is typical of modern Chinese replica coins. It is probably in the 22g range instead of the ~26-28g of genuine coins of the type, and may even be mildly magnetic.

Edited to add I see Drusus posted the correct weight for a genuine example while I was typing.

 

Thanks for the info, I had the coin weighed, it came out at 26.1 gram, I still don't think it's authentic though, the color doesn't look silver, it is also not magnetic, maybe lead or nickel?

A NGC graded MS65 example of this coin just went for $3300, crazy price.

Li Yuan-hung is relative on my dad's side of family, my dad said he have been to his house when he was little. I read Li Yuan-hung had no real power, was a compromise candidate for president.

 

Do a simple test. If it's magnetic, it's fake. If it's not the above mentioned weight, it's fake. If it passes both test then you might want to investigate but otherwise, I highly doubt it.

 

that is far more than the coin is worth. far more.

 

The coin is not magnetic and it is the correct weight, a local coin dealer took one look and said it's a fake.