PONTificating About Domitian

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by David Atherton, Jul 4, 2017.

  1. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    My latest arrival is a rare Domitian 'PONT' denarius.

    D40.jpg Domitian
    AR Denarius, 3.17g
    Rome mint, 81 AD
    RIC 40 (R2), BMC -, RSC -
    Obv: IMP CAES DOMITIANVS AVG PONT; Head of Domitian, laureate, bearded, r.
    Rev: TR P COS VII DES VIII P P; Altar, garlanded and lighted
    Acquired from London Ancient Coins, June 2017.

    The abbreviation 'PONT' for Ponitfex Maximus must have come early in the rapid sequence of titles Domitian employed on his denarii in 81 and likely was short lived if its rarity is any indication. The more usual 'PM' soon followed and was used for the remainder of the reign. The records of the Arval brothers do not show Domitian as Pontifex Maximus by 30 October 81, so presumably he acquired the title in either November or December. The altar on the reverse is a carry-over pulvinaria type struck for Domitian as Caesar under Titus, perhaps representing the pulvinar of Vesta and Vulcan.

    Interestingly, the obverse legend displays the Greek influenced 'Y' instead of 'V', perhaps evidence of a Greek engraver's handiwork. More information about this can be read here: http://www.jhecoins.com/articles/article01.htm

    I could spend the rest of my life collecting all these early Domitian denarii!
     
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  3. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Nice! The centering is great and I really like the style of the bust.
     
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  4. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Very interesting portrait style and design! I would not have guessed that it was a Rome issue.
     
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  5. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I would suggest investigating to see if Pontif Maximus was a title that was conferred only on a certain date (like Consul) or after a formal ceremony so that PONT would indicate he was not yet PM just like DES VIII indicates he was not yet COS VIII. There never was more than one PM but I do not know the status of the office after the death of the old PM.
     
  6. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    You make a good point. PONT did not stand for Pontifex Maximus under Augustus but did so under Nero (PONT was used after Nero was already Pontifex Maximus, BMC 9). So, it seems likely PONT was an abbreviation of Pontifex Maximus for Domitian too. Although it is possible he followed in Augustus' footsteps and used the temporary title 'PONT' until the ceremony electing him to the position was completed. The office seems to have had no fixed date of appointment - Titus assumed it fairly quickly after his accession in June 79. Domitian presumably waited until his election as Pontifex Maximus before it was displayed on the coinage, perhaps Titus did not?
     
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  7. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Very nice. i really like the very clean design
     
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  8. gregarious

    gregarious E Pluribus Unum

    that's a real nice koin David!
     
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  9. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Two thumbs up for another beauty David.
    Two Thumbs Up.jpe
     
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  10. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    Great find David! That portrait is excellent.
     
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  11. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Nice addition, David. I like the reverse.
     
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  12. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Incredible eye-appeal!!! I LOVE that portrait!

    This is the closest I have (Well, it does have a garlanded altar:p):

    Silver denarius, RIC II, part 1, Titus 266 (C2); RSC II 397a; BMCRE IITitus 92; BnF IIITitus 76; SRCV I 2676, F, toned, Rome mint, weight3.331g, maximum diameter 17.7mm, die axis 180o, as caesar, 80 - 81 A.D.; obverse CAESARDIVI F DOMITIANVS COS VII, laureate head right; reverse PRINCEPS IVVENTVTIS (the first of youths), flaming and garlanded altar.

    domitian caesar flamed altar denarius.jpg
     
  13. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    That is a nice example of the altar type for Domitian as Caesar!
     
  14. Nemo

    Nemo Well-Known Member

    Wonderful coin David! And possibly produced by a Greek-speaking die engraver? How cool is that?
     
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  15. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    That OP is SWEET!
     
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  16. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    A good looking coin!
     
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  17. Similar Devices; different legends
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    Domitian Denarius 80 AD (Under Titus) - CAESAR DIVI F DOMITIANVS COS VII, laureate head right / PRINCEPS IVVENTVTIS, lighted & garlanded altar
    19.1mm
    3.55g
     
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