1903S Barber Dime in P1 condition

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by Steamandlight, Jul 1, 2017.

  1. Steamandlight

    Steamandlight Active Member

    I have a 1903-S barber dime that is in no better than P-01 condition. Since value guides only seem to go as low as G-04, I have no idea how to value this coin. In G4 it would be close to $80 book value. In general, P1 would be worth what percentage of G4?

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  3. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    If it is actually a PO01 coin, which is to say it has a clear date and mintmark and no cleaning or problems - just lots circulation wear (beyond AG3 and FR02, obviously) then it might appeal to a "lowball" collector. These are the crazy people who send coins like this off to PCGS in the hope of obtaining a straight, problem-free PO01 graded coin for their Lowball Registry sets. Personally I think these people are more than a little bit insane, but they're fun folks, so I respect their lunacy.

    Now, lowball sets aside, how to put a value on PO01?

    Well, as a general rule of thumb, I always figured AG3 at half G4 value, and FR02 at half that, and PO01 at half that, but I'll be the first to admit that system is flawed.

    If the coin catalogs $80 in G4 as you say (I didn't look it up), my "system" (such as it is) gives you an approximate value of $10 in PO01. But that is a very imperfect system, as I've said. A more accurate way might be to compare prices of similar examples that have sold on eBay (not just closed, but actually sold).

    Really, it varies on an individual basis.

    The fact that it is a better date and that PO01 is in demand with the Lowball Loonies (I say that with affection) works to the advantage of a 1903-S dime in that grade. I should think it would definitely be worth much more than the ten bucks arrived at using my simple but flawed formula.
     
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  4. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    Because it is a key date it is still an important coin.
    Condition is a prime factor, this is a case of what someone is willing to pay, to figure out what it is worth. ($20? More? No idea).
    Photo would be great. I love the P-01's and AG-02's.
     
  5. Steamandlight

    Steamandlight Active Member

    Ok, here are some pictures. The large "C" shaped mark in the middle of the reverse probably keeps it from being "problem free". However, my original question is generalized, because no guides seem to list coins in the lowest conditions, and I have others. It's frustrating when trying to value the whole collection. IMG_5266.JPG IMG_5268.JPG IMG_5269.JPG
     
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  6. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Yeah, if it weren't for that "C" mark (Look! A Barber from the Charlotte Mint! LOL ;) ), then I would've said you had yourself a real PO01 contender there!

    I think something in the ballpark of @Michael K's $20 "guesstimate" might be about right. As mentioned, the $10 arrived at via my quickie formula is probably a bit too low in this case.
     
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  7. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    One final question: how sure are you it's a 1903-S and not a 1902-S?

    The last digit does have a curled top to indicate is a 2 or 3, but based on what I see in the picture above, I can't tell which.
     
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  8. Steamandlight

    Steamandlight Active Member

    Because I compare it to other 1902 and 1903 ones in my possession - the "3" font has a point in the upper left inside curve, the "2" is fully rounded on the upper inside curve. This one has the point heading upper-left on the inside curve :)
     
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  9. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Ah. Well done. I wondered if there were diagnostics like that, and figured there must be.
     
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  10. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    I also compared with photos of 1902 and 1903 Barbers to see, and it is indeed the 1903.
     
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  11. Steamandlight

    Steamandlight Active Member

    Thanks. I was personally sure of it, but it's always good to have outside verification lol. You're not biased like I am about the coin ;)
     
  12. David Setree Rare Coins

    David Setree Rare Coins Well-Known Member

    Without that rolling machine mark on the reverse, I believe the coin may have been worth a couple hundred dollars.
     
  13. Steamandlight

    Steamandlight Active Member

    Nah :) Numismedia only puts it at $78 in G4 condition, and WITHOUT that mark I'd call it P1. So unless the lowball graders put a BIG premium on P1 stuff, I can't see how it ould be that much :p
     
  14. PaulD48

    PaulD48 New Member

    Hard to tell but does look a little like a 2 in 190?). C on back may be an issue. ( damaged )
     
  15. David Setree Rare Coins

    David Setree Rare Coins Well-Known Member

    So called "low-ballers" have recently paid some stunning prices for P1 coins. In the end, it's buyer and seller......or two buyers at auction.
     
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