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Apparently pointing out that you're insulting people is somehow whining. Easier to dismiss the person and insult them than think for just a second about why they even bothered to speak up to you. You're a bully on this site and you are very rude to people when you could easily say something in another manner. I have no doubt several new folks see your rude responses and decide this isn't the place for them because they don't want to be attacked for not knowing something or for disagreeing with you. You don't have to throw a personal insult at every person you disagree with. Stop projecting your personal anger issues on others. It's very unhealthy.

 

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Anybody know the names of three top error coin dealers?

Fred
Mike Byers
Jon

Takes a special brand of something I'll not name to throw shade on two of them, mischaracterize random web articles and claim a vast conspiracy aimed at yourself. Only thing missing seems to be the Illuminati.

Thank Ghu for the ignore feature on this site.

 

I agree but only with your first statement.

 

Finally. Your real intentions come out and you reveal that, as a dealer of 45 years, you know more than the cumulative expertise of all the PCGS Graders, Fred Weinberg and others withprovable reputations within the industry and have an Ax to grind. With PCGS.

Exactly "what" does questionable color have to do with ANY of the discussions so far in this thread?

As for the linked 1934 Quarters article. That was a very interesting article whose only questionable aspect regarding the coins authenticity would be the "There are numerous lumps of excess metal throughout Washington's hair, but they blend in well with the curls of his hair." statement.
Given the opportunity and having just a wee bit of knowledge with regard to Washington Quarters, I'd like to have seen good photo's of the coin(s) in question.

As it stands, the only real identifiers the author presented was simply a "suspicion" that the coins were masterfully created fakes due to their relative abundance at one particular coin show.
Of course, we all know that the Secret Service is next to worthless when examining coins for authenticity with the exception of "obvious" counterfeits so that "letter" is worth no more than the paper it was printed/copied onto.

Coin Dealers, of the quick and dirty profit type, are notorious for purchasing counterfeits and an easy target for counterfeiters.

BUT, the sudden appearance of what appears to be counterfeit coins at a PCGS Sponsored Coin Show by a PCGS Grader, at the very minimum, should have required a purchase of at least one, possibly tow of the coins for examination and archival purposes to help identify these as they trickled in for grading over the years.
Meaning, a reference article for future graders and collectors such as what was produced for the Micro O Morgan Dollars. Such and article would have had a definite and lasting impact on the Coin Collecting Community.

Lastly, the author never mentions whether the coins were of the Light, Medium, or Heavy Motto varieties which, to a collector, is an important distinction for the 1934 Washington Quarter.

As for PCGS? Sure, they make mistakes. Especially on the "verifier" side of the house.





But this doesn't mean anything. Mistakes, just like "errors", happen.

AND, at some point in time, one has to put their trust into something more knowledgeable then themselves lest their lives be consumed with unproven and questionable "conspiracies" based upon the "theoretical" evidence of only a few that have been proven to have some type of score to settle.

$100 Million? Seriously?

 

Nobody has intelligently answered the question regarding the Scam by PCGS of refusing to grade pennies sending them back to the customer after stealing their money with a fraudulent "questionable color" rating. What PCGS is doing is fraud especially after keeping the money customers paid to have a coin graded with an MS or PF grade! If PCGS is going to fraudulently grade a coin "questionable color" without taking the time to call the owner to find out the background of the coin, i.e where it was stored, etc. then the grading fee should be refunded. End of discussion!

 

Show the coin in question please. How can anyone possibly know what PCGS was considering without seeing the coin? And PR is not a grade, it is a method of manufacture.

 

Don't waste your time. It's someone without a clue who is just trying to bash PCGS. Everyone who submits toned coins has gotten a questionable color result from them at one time or another. Some group seems to have decided to come and attack PCGS and the TPGs in the last couple days, almost certainly people that just need to learn how to grade better

 

Grading is an "opinion" based upon "experience" in the field.

People pay PCGS money to render "an opinion" on their coins as to what their "experience" tells them that the coin is worth with regard to grade.

If you have a problem with PCGS, take it up with PCGS and/or backup your claims of "lawsuit ally (sic)" by filing your own lawsuit.

Otherwise, whine somewhere else.

 

Or at the very minimum, draw upon the 45 years of experience.

Since nobody has bothered to ask, what is the name of your dealership? What state are you located in? City?

Aside from $100 million Pine Tree's, what coins do you specialize in?

Do you belong to the ANA?

Do you advertise in the GreySheet? Coin World? Where do you advertise?

Please, share something about yourself and your 45 year old coin business.

 

I found stuff like that as a young kid with only a few years of experience (before I even knew what that word meant!), and I immediately knew that it was not an "error," but rather damage that ocurred after the coin was minted. You strike me as someone who likes to ignore the obvious to make it fit into your paradigm, just like sharing all of the "fake news" shared on social media that plagued both sides of the election.

Plus, you have no idea how to use proper terminology:

Counterfeit = an object illicitly made with the intention to deceive. Altering is not counterfeiting.

Error = An unintentional mistake [by the mint in the case of coins]. Since your coin was intentionally altered outside if the mint, it is not an error, end of story, no matter how many uneducated individuals tell you otherwise. If someone pointed at a dog and said "cat" and sincerely meant it, that does not make it a cat.

It may benefit you greatly to read a couple books or take a couple classes so you can actually know what you are talking about. It is quite apparent that you currently don't.

 

The "whining" observation has to do with the fact that it has been going on for a couple months now, and you know it. Just like the last thread where you cried and cried, after first crying over what a big meanie Doug is, about how I was supposedly making fun of the very people I was clearly defending, even after clarifying for you and only you. Let's be honest here. This little whine-fest, the one you've now dragged into numerous threads, all started over your claim that a once uncirculated coin is automatically rendered circulated by tape, and not what the coin itself shows. Who knew you would go off the deep end over something so ridiculously petty and stupid, yet you have thare gall to question my supposed issues? If anything, all it does show is that someone really needs his blankie.

Oh, and in this very thread we have someone clearly and baselessly attacking a highly respected member at the top of his field, yet not a peep out of you about that. No, instead you pick what was nothing in comparison, and all because of some petty nonsense that happened months ago? I'm so terribly sorry for my unforgivable offense of disagreeing about tape, and even for daring to post a link for those who may actually be interested in understanding what sans serif means. Do you feel better now?

There's no reason to muck up another thread with your on-going fit. If you worried half as much about yourself as you do me, perhaps there would be no reason to disagree.

 

You don't know what you are talking about. I question if you have ever been a dealer. You don't talk or act like any dealer I have ever known. You need to stop with all the fraud talk. It just shows that you don't understand.

 

Everyone.. STOP CRYING COMING TO THE RESCUE OF A SCAM TAKING PLACE WITHIN THE GRADING INDUSTRY! You cry babies refuse to answer the question of what makes a penny "questionable color" and how is PCGS getting away with fraudulently grading pennies with a fraudulent grade of "questionable color" when the scam of a company cannot legally say the coin has been altered by the owner or anyone else. I thought all the graders are "experts?" There is no such grade as "questionable color." Any other cry babies want to give this question a try giving an intelligent answer? Others crying don't respond. You already know it all.

Cheers!

 

BECAUSE ITS THEOR OPINION THAT THE COLOR IS NOT NATURAL! NOT THAT IT WAS ALTERED BY THE SUBMITTER BUT NOT A NATURAL EFFECT OF TONING!

Submitters are paying for an "OPINION" whether they agree with the "OPINION" or not. The grader has done his/her job.

 

You seem to be the only one that does not understand the meaning of the word "questionable". It's not a grade. It means they question the color. They feel it is wrong, not normal, fake or just funky.

"when the scam of a company cannot legally say the coin has been altered by the owner or anyone else."
This statement tells everyone you don't know what you are talking about. How old are you? Ask intelligent questions.

 

WRONG! If I want an opinion I'll ask a dealer if I want a coin graded properly and lawfully as in what PCGS is supposed to do, I send it to be graded but in the case with PCGS, they illegally take money and send the coin back not graded which is fraud!

Cheers!

 

It was graded. There was a letter grade along with the questionable color if you selected that option. Question color is a grade, a details grade....

 

Did you read the form you signed when you sent the coin to PCGS? You should read it. What is lawfully graded?

 

You really have no idea what you are talking about. Do you?

As such, it is pointless to continue any discussion with you.

UNLESS, you provide your business name and perhaps your ANA Number.

 

Or to forget those 45 years of experience if this is what they have lead up too