IKE Errors on eBay

Sorry about the hijack...

Are you suggesting that this is a type three reverse and therefore could not be a '71? Frankly I have a difficult time distinguishing the difference between type one and three, but two is pretty obvious.

 

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I lean towards a 7 just because it looks more like a mangled 7 to me when blowing up the picture. I can see what appears to be the top of it but have a hard time visualizing the top of the 4. That said its so jacked up in that area I could buy an argument for either but if you made me pick one or the other I see more of what looks like a poorly struck 7

 

Im not sure i can say what the last digit is for sure, but I do like your guess that it is a 4. Something about it being struck on aluminum in 1974, the same year as the aluminum cents. Im not saying it is an aluminum cent planchet cause SF shouldnt have had any of those (but neither should Denver) and this weighs 2 grams. The aluminum cent is just under a gram I believe. Just a cool thing to think about really.

 

OK,

I know some don't agree with me but I'm not here to make people like me, I'm here to inform collectors. Here you go, the face looks similar to that of the error coin. Also, check out the 2 ikes picture, tell me which Ike you think is fake. Cheers!

https://www.coincommunity.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=268018

 

You were already told by one of the guys that PCGS has do errors for them that the OP coin is genuine

 

Yes, it is a Type 3 Reverse.

The easiest method is that with the Type 1, the Islands are aligned and to the right of Florida.

With the Type 3, the Islands are centered under Florida.

 

Provide a clear picture and I'll tell ya!

As for your link?

It is clearly pointed out that the coin shown is one of those 3" Coaster type doo dah's that can be bought at nearly any novelty shop.

Are you serious? I mean, seriously, are you for real?

Your not posting good examples of your argument(s) and the linked coin has no resemblance to what was in the original post.

This, is a counterfeit IKE:



So is this:


Both, reasonably well done except for the flash ans casting residue on the coins.

The coin in the OP, is the real deal IMO.

 

I'm confused. I just found another thread on this board talking about perfect replica ikes. Although no images were found, the posts speak for themselves. Here it is.

https://www.cointalk.com/threads/get-your-hongkongese-replica-1976-eisenhower-dollars-here.45254/

Cheers!

 

There's not much of an argument to the OP coin being fake. Fred (who is widely considered THE error authority) said that he's seen this coin in hand and that it is genuine. Case closed.

Thanks for the diagnostic @19Lyds , I never spotted that difference. Much easier to see now. I love that there's still plenty for me to learn after thirty five years of collecting. Sorry, you guys are stuck with me for a while.

 

No disrespect, but you most certainly do not come off as one with 45 years experience, nor even 45 weeks experience, on either side of the table.

Thus far, you've utterly failed to make your case, even ignoring the fact that the OP (no less Mr. Weinberg) has more than earned the board's respect in this area.

 

Amazingly many think they are experts but as the attached article from an "alleged" seasoned PCGS GRADER tells everyone, even the best graders / authentication experts cannot tell a good replica apart. This is my entire point. Nobody seems to get it.

https://www.pcgs.com/News/The-Almost-Perfect-Counterfeit

Cheers!

 

Hi,

Not to change this getting no where subject but I will tell you a recent story about a very old coin I found in a garage. It goes like this... The coin is a copper 1854 liberty head one cent. Facing left. United States of America and laurels on the back. Mint P. The odd thing is on the back-it doesn’t say one cent….it says edited. Did anyone know this coin was illegally altered back in the days? I showed the coin to another dealer and he almost fell over. He thought it was a real error. I have the coin and to this day, I'm shocked at the way the metal was moved. If anyone wants to see it, I can scan the coin in for you. The metal was actually moved to form the error. Amazing counterfeit coin.

Cheers!

 

Yea no one gets it because you aren't making it. They know its an almost perfect counterfeit because they know its counterfeit to begin with.........

If they couldn't tell that article wouldn't exist....

 

Altering a real coin such as a potty dollar is not a counterfeit.....

 

This is why I said what I did earlier. They're a rather comical and interesting piece of history, yes, but are also fairly common. As for posting a photo, don't bother.... the mods will remove it anyway. All anyone wishing to see an example has to do is simply google it.

 

There you go again with your insults...

 

In those times, there were many hand graveurs, professionals who if they wished to play with coins could add mint marks by drilling a small hole in the edge and raising the mm or special rare markings from the inside and then seal the hole as few looked there. So, since metals like copper, silver , and gold are so soft, it was practice for them for their other work.

And yes as mentioned, please read the rules, as CT has rather strict rules on language and certain subject matter, thank you.

 

Question, Fred says the coin is genuine? Now I'm really confused. So if I send a spot on replica to Fred and he says it's real then his word is God? Or, how about I send him a die error? What if Fred says, "We don't recognize the error as an error" but legally it's a mint error and I have paperwork from the mint to prove it. So are you telling me what ever Sir Fred says trumps the United States Mint Certificate of Authenticity? What a scam if I ever saw one. So tell me, what does "questionable color" mean on a copper penny if Sir Fred is so brilliant? Every copper coin pre mint set could be considered questionable on color because as everyone knows, OK...what date did the mint start creating cameo coins? Answer the question and you'll see where I'm going with this. In fact, all over the Internet people are complaining about being scammed by PCGS grading coins "questionable color." By PCGS illegally accusing a person of altering the color of a coin, the company and graders are placing themselves in lawsuit ally. PCGS is a scam until they stop accusing people of altering colors of a coin with no knowledge or proof of alteration!

Cheers!

 

Since several branches of the government seek out his help and since he literally coauthored the book on the subject, the answer is yes, I would trust his opinion over just about any other on the subject. Of course you have been a dealer for forty five years, so you already must know him and have seen him at about every major show for the past few decades.
http://www.fredweinberg.com/about-us/

 

And there you go with your whining. Seriously, are you capable of anything other than crying?

Come on, oh perfect one; don't be so gullible.