Spot conservation or coin doctoring?

The bright green particles are a corrosion product often seen on copper like this BU Indian cent.

After removing, the underlying surface is no longer original.

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It conserves the coin by removing the loci of reaction. If the person is keeping it, their call. If selling , mention should be made before sale or its coin doctoring. In my definition. Jim

 

@Insider, how did you do that? That doesn't look half-bad.

 

This is a poll with no votes!

Sorry, I forgot to give credit to "Dipper's Are US" who did that amazing work.

 

I was just wondering what they used. I could take care of that on silver and nickel. I'll bet they just chipped away at it with a toothpick, it looks like the kind that can be loosened with acetone and a little, well, "encouragement."

 

The poll makes no sense to me. Are you asking is it either spot conservation OR coin doctoring? Or are you asking whether either one was done or not?

I think the spot is so small, and it saved it from potentially spreading... so someone did it to conserve it, which I'm okay with. To me coin doctors hide problems. This person solved the problem.

 

http://www.coinlink.com/News/pdf/CU_vs_Coin_doctors.pdf

It wouldn't be unreasonable, upon considering the total of all information available on these touchy subjects published by a certain somebody, to wonder how close to this, a certain somebody admittedly 'in the closet' and not 'acting like a washed gent', might have been to this or how close "he" may be again and doesn't know it.

Some protest far too much with all their grandstanding and chest beating.

Jus saying is all. There are always two sides to a coin.

 

Looks like a piece of spinach. Has someone been chewng on it?

 

That might work. The green did not look It did not look "hard." Not telling what was under it.

OK, you vote conservation. Another poster votes conservation but if selling it - doctoring. That's three votes cast.

Just like a coin having THREE SIDES.

 

Interesting is that you do not believe this should be disclosed upon selling. Your methods and pathology are very interesting to several.

Cross posting between various forums calling out people here, there and wherever while establishing a pattern that is not thickly veiled.

Good luck.

 

Nobody voting has actually voted anything since your survey is fatally spurious, yet, that isn't stopping you from editorializing and trash talking VIP's here and other places elsewhere.

Including the moderator in this thread.......

 

Could also be kale. Ugh.

 

perhaps you "VIP's" don't see you're being called out or which side of this issue the OP is on which appears to be that of common law fraud if there is intent to do such things if not disclosed upon selling.

 

@desertgem

I don't wish to be mounting any personal attacks behind your back ; so I just want to be sure you see that I'm "trashtalking" your reply and that of others.

 

Because your poll makes no sense. You ask an "either/or" question coupled with "yes/no" answers. This does not compute.

 

Hey, am I a VIP now that I'm getting screenshot-ed????

Seriously, this poll is a problem as @Maxfli says. You can't answer the question as 'yes' or 'no'.

To expand on my screenshot comment (as I've made similar before)--in my mind CONSERVATION is something done to protect from damage/stop further damage. Think acetone etc baths to remove PVC or get rid of a contaminant that may cause harm or further harm. No intent to deceive, and no attempt to enhance or artificially change a coin's appearance (other than to get rid of the contaminant).

COIN DOCTORING are actively taken steps done in order to change a coin's appearance--things like plugging, puttying, tooling, adding toning. Altering the coin to enhance appearance/hide problems for purposes of deceit (ie profit motive). Falsifying a coin's appearance.

Or, perhaps think of it this way (to use the doctor analogy more)...

Washing ones face = conservation
beauty spas and prescription meds = dipping level of activity (micro level stuff)
plastic surgery = coin doctoring

Washing your face is normal hygiene and preventative measures.

Plastic surgery can change a person from fugly to beautimous, but the children aren't going to inherit that nose job.

Having a peel or using accutaine or retin-A might make for a more pleasing look.

I do think a problem arises when conservation services may actually be getting a bit in to the chemical processing/spa treatment (ie carbon spot removal) activity.

I don't think a simple wash or flicking off of debris that won't cause harm or further changes means much.

Once you get to dipping or beyond, that is information a buyer should know. Someone might not mind the coin was dipped, or a hole plugged...AS LONG AS THEY ARE ABLE TO MAKE AN INFORMED BUYING DECISION. Of course the common statement re: dipping is that if it's done properly no one will know, and the current owner might not know about it either.

edited to add: so in answer to what I THINK the question is, no I don't think that flicking off crud is doctoring, and yes this appears to me (from this limited information) to be simple conservation. I don't get the reference to dippers 'r us or whatever so I'm probably missing part of the story (and I haven't read the full thread elsewhere).

 

THANKS ALL, sorry for making this so complicated!

@-jeffB
@Maxfli
@C-B-D

Please "title" my poll correctly. I never was any good at English!

EDIT: Never mind, @Stork has enlightened me!

 

It appears to me you're an entity that believes this to be ok and no obligation to disclose no matter what price tag is associated with the item. If I read your position incorrectly, mea culpa. I don't believe I have.

 

You are reading incorrectly.