Struck Through Grease?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Swan, Jun 26, 2017.

  1. Swan

    Swan A millon dollars short of being a millionaire

    Or something else? Appears to be slightly incused.
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  3. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Looks more like a detached lamination. Look that up on the internet and see if you agree. When metal peels away, there is often a sharp edge with an undercut. That's what it looks like on the left side of the depression.
     
  4. Swan

    Swan A millon dollars short of being a millionaire

    It does kind of look like that, but wouldn't the letters peel off also?
     
  5. Tyler Graton

    Tyler Graton Well-Known Member

    Looks like a lamination to me. If you look up on google. Lamination error penny, I see many with the devices still there, just not as strong as it should be.
     
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  6. Swan

    Swan A millon dollars short of being a millionaire

    I love this forum. I've learned so much in the short time I've been here. Should have done this years ago.
     
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  7. Insider

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    It looks like the original top surface has peeled off. When a coin is struck, its design underlies the surface we can see. It looks like part of the "NT" was below the original surface that is gone.
     
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  8. Tyler Graton

    Tyler Graton Well-Known Member

    Struck through grease is where the devices looks like they are missing. I have a 2000 penny that is missing the zero. Struck through grease makes the devices disappear
     
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  9. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Brother can you spare a trime? Supporter

    Looks like a lamination peel before strike.
     
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  10. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    It is not. There are clues why it is not in the image. The way to figure it out is to think of a planchet with a missing part. Then think what it should look like after it is struck.

    For now :muted:

    :jawdrop:
     
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  11. Tyler Graton

    Tyler Graton Well-Known Member

    There would be no devices except maybe at the highest points (even sometimes not even seeing the highest point devices.) but the devices wouldn't be fully struck or fully intact.
     
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  12. Ordinary Fool

    Ordinary Fool Active Member

    Take more pictures and from different rotational angles with respect to your light sources. A few really well focused and crisp would be nice.
     
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  13. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Answer: If there is a defect on a planchet like an adjustment mark, ragged hole, detached lamination. tumbling contact marks, etc. its borders with the surrounding field will be smoothed by the metal flow. The OP's coin shows a sharp tear along one side.
     
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  14. Ordinary Fool

    Ordinary Fool Active Member

    The sole picture of the OP's coin show not enough quality information to rule out interesting PMD, much less make any solid determination about strike through or lamination.

    What you see on your screen looks close enough to a real coin held in hand?

    If so, you may need to see an optometrist or you have one incredibly amazing monitor/display.
     
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  15. Fred Weinberg

    Fred Weinberg Well-Known Member

    It's a lamination, with the piece
    peeled off after striking.

    It is genuine, and not PMD (for a nice change!)
     
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  16. Ordinary Fool

    Ordinary Fool Active Member

    I want to own whatever you are using for a visual display of the internet.
     
  17. Fred Weinberg

    Fred Weinberg Well-Known Member

    Sorry, I don't understand the above statement.
    Can you clarify? Thanks
     
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  18. Ordinary Fool

    Ordinary Fool Active Member

    Disclose to me what exact devices you are using to view the internet, thanks.
     
  19. Fred Weinberg

    Fred Weinberg Well-Known Member

    A Mac computer, and a computer screen,
    and my eyes.

    I'm a bit baffled what difference it makes.

    Can you be a bit more specific in your questions?
     
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  20. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Ordinary Fool, posted: "The sole picture of the OP's coin show not enough quality information to rule out interesting PMD, much less make any solid determination about strike through or lamination. What you see on your screen looks close enough to a real coin held in hand? If so, you may need to see an optometrist or you have one incredibly amazing monitor/display."

    Dear Ordinary Fool,

    IMO, the OP's image is good enough (10X the size of a coin in hand) for any knowledgeable coin collector to identify the characteristic (detached lamination) he asked about with their naked eye. Perhaps the fact that I wear glasses helps me see better than other posters.
     
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  21. Ordinary Fool

    Ordinary Fool Active Member

    Not Dear To Me At All Insider so cease with the phoney patronizing please,

    With all due respect, and I do respect your vast experience and knowledge in the numismatics arena, just not your methods and I know "who" you are; 10X maybe through reject cracker jacks optics.

    I'm not kidding and have an array of second-to-virtually-none displays, and even mediocre common displays to view the internet.

    Your glasses may have hopeful, wishful or rose tint to them irrationally applied at that.

    I remain,
    Ordinary Fool
     
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