If you were to buy just one coin to...

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by lordmarcovan, Jun 23, 2017.

  1. 1934 Wreath Crown

    1934 Wreath Crown Well-Known Member

    I cannot think of another Muslim ruler who commanded the same level of reverence and respect across a large swathe of land....East and West. He is like the Alexander or Julius Caesar of the Islamic world. You can't go wrong with one of his coins. BUT watch out.....I'll be bidding against you.:D:D;)
     
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  3. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    That's helpful, but it doesn't differentiate them much from the recent modern U.S. Mint offerings.:wacky:
     
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  4. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    Yes, I know. I need new glasses myself. :watching:
     
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  5. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    This one is cool. I've admired the type before. It's just a hair over a hundred bucks. Not an ideal strike, but far better than many, and nice contrasting toning. This was the nicest of the type I saw on VCoins. (Edit - no, not the nicest, after all - but maybe the nicest for the money. I'll keep browsing.)

    SELJUQ of RUM KAYKHUSRAW II AR DIRHAM SIWAS AH 638 2.8 GR & 22,05 MM
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  6. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    This one's less than a hundred bucks.

    SELJUQ of RUM KAYKHUSRAW II AR DIRHAM SIWAS AH 638 3.0 GR & 22,53 MM
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  7. H8_modern

    H8_modern Attracted to small round-ish art

    I have a couple that I purchased but have done no research and don't even remember what they are. It's times like this that make me think of myself as a hoarder rather than a numismatist.
     
  8. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    Made up my mind and pulled the trigger. I'm breaking new ground here, so I'd appreciate any input from someone who knows this material. (Or not - general impressions from my fellow uninitiates are welcome, too.)

    This one just "spoke" to me, somehow.

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    I just wasn't ready to make the move on a gold dinar or toman just yet.
     
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  9. H8_modern

    H8_modern Attracted to small round-ish art

    I like it. I bought a couple from a shop that didn't know what they had. Now I don't know what I have. I've tried looking through CNG but being totally ignorant of the letters and language, they all look the same to me. I think it's an AR dirham of the Abbasid Caliphate, circa 862-866 AD. Of course I probably have it upside down.

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  10. Yankee42

    Yankee42 Well-Known Member

  11. 1934 Wreath Crown

    1934 Wreath Crown Well-Known Member

    :D:D YES you do actually have both sides upside down:D:D. Also, first pic is the Reverse and second one is the Obverse.
     
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  12. 1934 Wreath Crown

    1934 Wreath Crown Well-Known Member

    Nice coin lordmarcovan. BTW if you find a nice Saladin (Salah-ud-Din) and don't want it for yourself, please do give me a shout :happy:;).
     
  13. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    Yes, I believe @Sallent's piece subconsciously influenced me.


    I think I searched the "Saladin" spelling on VCoins and came up with a few examples, but nothing really "jumped off the screen" at me.

    This, one is pretty neat, though I have no idea about the attribution?

    Ayyubid Al Nasir Yousaf [ Saladin ] AR dirham Halab 609 h.
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  14. H8_modern

    H8_modern Attracted to small round-ish art

    Thanks. The dumb thing is that I had them correct and then thought maybe I had it wrong and changed them. At least I was correct about my being ignorant :)
     
  15. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    I am quite often proven correct when assuming things about my own ignorance. :p
     
  16. DieHard11

    DieHard11 Member

    I know that it doesn't fall under your stated price parameters, but I wouldn't mind owning a gold dinar from gold mined by land owned by Caliph himself. One such dinar (dated 723 AD) went at auction in 2011 for over $6mil, which I believe makes it the third highest price realized at auction behind the 1933 Double Eagle auctioned by Sotheby's in 2002 for $7.6mil and the 1794 Flowing Hair Silver Dollar that went for over $10mil in 2011 at Stack's Bowers.
     
  17. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    Um. Yeah. Six million bucks is just a teensy bit beyond my price parameters. ;)

    Just a teeny-weeny-little-tiny bit. LOL

    If I ever have six million bucks to spend, it won't be on some little round piece of metal. Or even a 1970s bionic man.

    Nope. I'll be buying the nice, rustic log house in the woods by a lake, and using the rest to see that my children, family, and friends have what they need. :)

    Ah. Thanks for that little daydream, though.

    Now, where was I...?
     
  18. pragmatic

    pragmatic Well-Known Member

    The silver proof 5 egyptian pounds with Mecca on the obverse.
     
  19. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    One coin for the Islamic world? Is that a joke?

    One is not enough.

    These represent most of the different phases of the Islamic occupation of Iberia.

    Umayyad Dirham of Caliph Hisham ibn Abd' al-Malik.jpg
    Umayyad (first phase of occupation)

    Umayyads of Spain AR Dirhem (Hisham II).jpg
    Caliphate of Cordoba (second phase of occupation)

    Almohad-muwahhids AR Dirham (anonymous).jpg
    Muwahhid Iberia (third phase of occupation and the start of permanent decline of Islamic rule in Iberia).

    Iberia was not the entire Islamic world though. Here is the Abbasid Caliphate.

    Abbasid Caliphate, al-Rashid.jpg
    Abbasid Caliphate

    And let's not forget Islamic rule in India

    ud Din Mubarak 4-Ghani Delhi Sultanate.jpeg
    Delhi Sultanate

    And going back to the middle East, there is the collapse of the classical world in Persia.

    Tabaristan, Umar B. al Ala hemidrachm.jpeg
    Tabaristan

    And let's not forget the Crusades

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    Seljuq Turks

    And even with all these, I'm probably half a dozen Islamics short of having a fair representative sample of medieval Islamic coinage.



     
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  20. willieboyd2

    willieboyd2 First Class Poster

    During the Crusades, Islamic coins were so well made that the Crusaders made imitations of them, including the original Islamic inscriptions.

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    Crusader Kingdom of Jerusalem gold bezant
    20mm, 3.90gm, struck AD 1148-1187

    These coins were copies of Moslem Fatimid coins, down to the Kufic legends promoting Islam as the true religion. Kufic was a form of Arabic writing used at the time. Most of the copies used the design of the Fatimid king al-Amir who ruled AD 1101-1130. The first coins were direct copies, as time went on the legends became less clear.

    In AD 1250 Pope Innocent IV (AD 1243-1254) ordered the Crusaders to stop making coins with Islamic legends and they began putting Christian legends on their coins.

    :)
     
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