New Vespasian

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Mat, Jun 21, 2017.

  1. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Here is a Tet I have had for awhile. I am sure @David Atherton wondered when I would post it. Sadly it had alot of BD on the edges that I didn't see in the sellers, so I have been battling it. So far it seems OK now.

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    Egypt, Alexandria
    AR Tetradrachm
    O: AYTOK KAIΣ ΣEBA OYVEΣΠAΣIANOY; Head of Vespasian, laurerate, r., date LΓ before neck
    R: No Legend; Nike flying l., with wreath and palm.
    Alexandria mint, 70-71 AD
    12.82g
    25mm
    RPC 2423
     
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  3. Smojo

    Smojo dreamliner

    Cool coin.
    Sucks about the BD, a real deal killer. I used to not mind a tiny bit but my hospital tray has shrunk & don't want to have to expand it again.
     
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  4. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    Nice coin with an interesting portrait.
     
  5. gregarious

    gregarious E Pluribus Unum

    good lookin' koin! i like those, but have nary a billon yet.
     
  6. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    I'm glad to see it arrived safe and sound.

    Most Alexandrian tets I've come across have harmless little green deposits on them that aren't BD, perhaps that is what you have on your coin?
     
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  7. IdesOfMarch01

    IdesOfMarch01 Well-Known Member

    I'm a little curious as to how a silver coin can have bronze disease; can you elucidate?
     
  8. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Bronze disease is quite normal on billon coins that are 75% to 85% copper. I would be interested in hearing what the least percentage AE coins are that have been found with BD.
     
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  9. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    It would easily wipe off and 2 days later bloom right back. Soaked it in distilled water for awhile and picked at the trouble spots.

    So far its ok. Some of the edges weren't silver, but old deposits and whatever else. Thats where it was blooming.
     
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  10. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Sucks about the BD but it's a good looking tet. I had bd start on an Ant. of Gordian III before.
     
  11. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    I think it's a nice looking coin Mat...keep that BD away! did your Verdi-care it?

    This tet had BD on the edge as well, no idea how much AR/AE is it, supposedly an AR tet..but more billon I guess.


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    Syria, Seleucis and Pieria. Emesa. Macrinus, 217-218 AD. AR Tetradrachm
    O: laureate, draped, and cuirassed bust right. R: eagle standing facing, head left, holding wreath in beak; between legs, radiate and draped bust of Shamash left. Prieur 1015. 27 mm, 12.9 g


    Speaking of which I need to check it! :watching:
     
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  12. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Nice looking coin @Mat , but I'm surprised about the BD. I thought these had very little copper. But there ya go. I guess I don't know as much as I should.
     
  13. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    Vespasian's year 1 Alexandrian tets have an average silver fineness of around 19%. Compare that with those struck for Cleopatra which are nearly 32% fine.
     
  14. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Love the reverse on that.
     
  15. IdesOfMarch01

    IdesOfMarch01 Well-Known Member

    Interesting -- I was unaware that AR tets have this high percentage of other metals. I don't remember my chemistry well enough to know what percentage of copper is necessary before bronze disease is able to set it, but I'll bet it's a relatively low percentage.
     
  16. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    For contemporary Syrian tets the average fineness is around 67%, weighing close to 14.85g, and containing nearly 9.95g of silver. Just to give you an idea how variable they can be.
     
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