The best way to have my coins graded.

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  1. Keepright

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  3. cpm9ball

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    Before we go further, you need to post images of both the obverse and reverse, but I am curious to know why you think this coin deserves to be professionally graded.

    Chris
     
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  4. paddyman98

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    All I see is a normal Red Brown Cent with a Misaligned Die Strike.. Not worth sending it for grading.
     
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  5. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    Okay... let's try this again and back it up some. Why, exactly, do you feel this coin (or the others you've asked about) need to be "graded", as in submitting them to a TPG, and what would you be hoping to accomplish in doing so? Do you feel the coins are of a condition that would warrant it, or are you thinking the different 69-S cents you've posted are of the very valuable variety? Unfortunately, the fact is that neither is the case, and submitting them would simply be a waste of money.

    Please understand that in order for a coin, any coin, to be "worth" submitting, the plastic must add something of "value" to the coin. I'm starting to sound like a broken record here, but this can mean anything from independently verified authenticity, to increased liquidity, and everything in between, but the fact is that a great majority of perfectly nice and collectible coins simply do not need to be "graded". In fact, a very large number of those presently residing in plastic have to reason to be there. The TPGs do not exist for collector benefit; they're for-profit businesses, and while they do provide a great service, they're also more than happy to take your money while offering nothing of value in return. Submitting coins really can be viewed as a game in that to "win", one must be able to predict the likely or minimum grade a TPG will assign; if correct and the coin was wisely purchased, one can win, but if wrong, one can much more easily lose. Many, many people have forever buried themselves in coins due simply to a poor submission, so please... even if you don't take anything I've said, or anyone else has said or may say to heart, do seek out a genuinely knowledgeable and experienced eye to screen your coins before even thinking about sending them in. I wish you luck, sir.
     
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  6. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    To further amplify on my brothers' comments above, what is it about this coin that makes you want to have it graded? Until fairly recent years, none of the 3rd party grading services WOULD grade this coin. They recently have adopted a "if they're dumb enough to ask for it..." policy. So tell us, what makes you want to have this graded?
     
  7. Keepright

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  8. Keepright

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    I really don't have the equipment to see what I need to see.I'm living on a poormans salary.but I went and kinda found out all the things I needed to no today.like the 1969 s I learned if the mint mark is double its not a genuine.1969s and joined a 3party.to grad my coins.but I want to make shore that what I send is the real deal.plus I'm very new at this coin stuff.I will rather ask someone to help with the things I don't no or understand.I really don't have room for mistakes.
     
  9. Keepright

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    I think from what sreach I just might have the real deal.there's some more key factors I need to check.once that's done thing I could honestly say I did it.
     
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  11. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    There is a 1969-S double die. Incredibly rare.
    This is not it.
     
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  12. Keepright

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    I just want you to no that I really enjoyed what you had to say.and I'm very grateful to have very supportive members who I can go to for help.thank you very much.
     
  13. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    The 1969-S doubled die is not a subtle one. The doubling on "IN GOD WE TRUST" is very strong and obvious. What you may have here is one of several "RPM's" or repunched mint marks. Unfortunately, they're not especially valuable or rare.
     
  14. cpm9ball

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    Please take the advice others have given to you here. @BooksB4Coins Your coin is not valuable, and you would be wasting your money if you submitted it for grading. Sure, a TPG would take your money and grade the coin, but I guarantee that you will be very disappointed with the results.

    You must understand that we get dozens and dozens of people just like you coming here for information. Most fail to realize that it is not so easy learning about the coining process and what constitutes a true variety or error. No! A lot of them have fallen into the trap of reading some book like "Strike It Rich With Pocket Change" (or whatever) and thinking it is a piece of cake. Yeah! All of those "experts" with their websites and those who write "How To" books are making most of their money off people like you.

    Chris
     
  15. Keepright

    Keepright Member

    Like I said I'm very new to the coin world.and when I came across 2 1969s I thought that I hit the jackpot.but little did I know.it had to be double die o.which I didn't know what that was until today.and I also learned about mechanical doublein.which be mistaken for a double die.and I wasn't shore about what I had.that's why I was asking for help.
     
  16. Keepright

    Keepright Member

    I really appreciate your help.and I agree 100% that's why I have honest fellow members that have my back.and I really appreciate.everyones comments and concerns.to guide me in the right direction.thks alot.
     
  17. Keepright

    Keepright Member

    I learned some things today that open my eyes.I'm still learning.I have to crawl before I walk.but I really do appreciate.your comments.and will take everyones advise and learn everything I need to know about this wonderful world of coins.
     
  18. Keepright

    Keepright Member

    Chris i really like your style.and thank for your support.I really appreciate it.
     
  19. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    I assume you mean it is not a genuine 69-S Doubled Die Obverse. That is NOT correct. Mechanical doubling on the mintmark and date IS very common on the 1969-S cents and USUALLY the 69-S DDO does not show any doubling on the mint mark, but there are a few 69-S DDO's that DO have mechanical doubling on the mintmark. So you need to look at LIBERTY and IGWT to confirm the Doubled Die, and not pay as much attention to the date and mintmark.
     
  20. IBetASilverDollar

    IBetASilverDollar Well-Known Member

    That right there is enough to steer clear of coin grading! It is probably 10x more expensive than you are picturing it to be.

    For reference I just got an order of 4 coins together for PCGS today that is gonna cost me around $200 when shipping is factored in both ways. The only reason I'm doing it is because I'm semi confident one coin will upgrade a point and that alone will pay for the whole order. If it doesn't upgrade and 2 others don't crossover then I'll have lit $200 on fire.

    I'm confident though, it's gonna happen for me, pleaseeeeeeee PCGS make me not look dumb here.
     
  21. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    You got really good advice about making sure it is worth it. As just a general comment for everyone the best way to get something graded is to send it yourself and not use Middle men. That said as mentioned it has to be worth it or have a good chance of being worth it otherwise it's a waste of money
     
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