Toned Morgan - end of roll or "manufactured" ?

I really like this toning - is this and end of roll source of toning? Thoughts on grade? I think is a MS-62'sh...thanks R

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I'm no expert, but I'm not sure it is NT.

 

I dont see any elevation chromatics or pull-away toning. Either way, i wouldnt pay a premium 4 it.

 

I think I see some pull-away at the date, but I can't be sure from these photos. I'd expect to see more elsewhere on the coin.

 

It's not end of roll in my opinion. They tend to be toned one side and show the paper folds in the toning. it could be old album toning if actually NT. Hard say say with 100% certainty from the supplied images.

 

I agree with @Dave Waterstraat that this is not end-roll toning, but closer to what sitting in an album would do. I'd say it's market acceptable. It doesn't scream out as artificial toning, so I would think it would pass at a TPG (at least 50% of the time).

The toning is decent and should bring a bit of a premium.

Also, the pictures make it tough to grade. I would say it's between 63-64...unless there is wear on the high points, then it would be AU 58.

 

I think market acceptable. I agree that it looks like it could be a slider, though.

 

All very helpful - thanks!!!

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The toning on that coin does not appear natural, from those pictures.

Some people will still find it attractive enough to want it, but it doesn't feel right to me.

 

Does not look like end of roll paper toning to me. This coin has very symmetrical, ring like toning. Looks AT to me. End of roll is more random, with contact spots from the paper being less even, and more irregular.

 

Uh-oh

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100% market acceptable

 

Can we settle something? Were Morgan Dollars ever in rolls? They never came from the Mints that way, did they? I don't think they did.

 

That's closer to MS64-ish than it is to MS62-ish. So unless you meant the "-ish" in "MS62-ish" to include MS64, you have it undergraded-ish.

 

Yes, Morgans were often stored in rolls. They didn't come from the mint - but the majority of modern coins aren't rolled at the mint either (except for the special collector rolls that you buy for a premium). Rolls were, and still are, more often wrapped at banks. There are many original rolls still out there, although that number is dwindling as people open them.

A roll toned coin has a very different look than this AT'd piece, however.

 

Here is a PCGS 64 roll toned Morgan that I used to own:

 

So the ones rolled at the banks are considered the original rolls? I just don't get that, anyway. Why would a 19th Century bank get them in bags and roll them?