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  1. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I did something I almost never do. I bid very low on a lot of Greek coins, and somehow I won this lot of 5 coins, but now I am having trouble identifying three of the five. Please take a look and let me know what you see. Two with the triskele reverses I think are from Lydia. The one with the obverse portrait and unknown reverse I have no idea. What do you think?
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    The coin in the middle seems the toughest to me. Here is a better image. I think I see a goat on the reverse, but heck, I see shapes in clouds all the time.
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  3. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    Lower Left may be Miletos SG-3532 if it's really small
     
  4. gregarious

    gregarious E Pluribus Unum

    i see a couple o lions and a couple o ancient fidget spinners. they look purdy kool Bing. nice win! well, maybe that lower right is a boar.
     
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  5. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Yes, it is. That was easily attributed as was the lower right. A Myia AR Hemiobol. The two with the triskele reverses (fidget spinners) are Lydian, I just haven't attributed them yet. It's the enlarged image I am having the most problems identifying.
     
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  6. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    BTW, for those inquiring minds, I paid 45 GBP for the lot.
     
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  7. Ancient Aussie

    Ancient Aussie Well-Known Member

    I am no expert in Greek coins so can't help but I am happy that you scored a cool bunch of coins cheap, congrats Bing. How does the saying go? you will never know unless you have a go. :D
     
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  8. Ed Snible

    Ed Snible Well-Known Member

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  9. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    o_O

    You/we already identified all but the smallest (middle coin) earlier today.

    Your images of the middle coin show a good deal more detail that the seller's images. I'll take a spin through archives now. Looks like a fun challenge :)
     
  10. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Yeah, I thought we might get some more eyes on this little puppy. I still can't find anything, but still looking.
     
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  11. Ed Snible

    Ed Snible Well-Known Member

  12. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    I think Ed nailed it.
     
  13. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

  14. Ed Snible

    Ed Snible Well-Known Member

  15. gregarious

    gregarious E Pluribus Unum

    ...a "fidget" spin?^^
     
  16. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

  17. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    Looks like you got a good deal. This one sold for 650 euros in 2012!

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  18. Ed Snible

    Ed Snible Well-Known Member

    I think George Hill got it wrong in 1897.

    Few people are studying the coinage of Assos today. This is because of the difficulty of delivering a scientific paper without blushing every time the name "Assos" is spoken.
     
  19. I'm a fan of Lycian 1/3 staters. There have been many diobols in auctions, lately; but I only have 1. Very good deal for 45 GBP.

    A few of mine:
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    Dynasts of Lycia, Perikles. 380-362 BC. AR Third Stater. Lion scalp facing / Triskeles; in one section, draped bust of Helios facing slightly left, PERIKLE in Lycian, all within incuse square.
    3.12g
    17.56mm

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    Dynasts of Lycia, Perikles. 380-362 BC. AR Third Stater. Lion scalp facing / Triskeles; in one section, draped bust of Helios facing slightly left, PERIKLE in Lycian, all within incuse square.
    3.01g
    15.25mm

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    Dynasts of Lycia, Perikles. 380-362 BC. AR Third Stater. Lion scalp facing / Triskeles; in one section, draped bust of Hermes facing slightly left, PERIKLE in Lycian, all within incuse square.
    3.11g
    19.00mm

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    Dynasts of Lycia, Perikles. 380-362 BC. AR Third Stater. Lion scalp facing / Triskeles; in one section, draped bust of Hermes facing slightly left, in one section dolphin right, PERIKLE in Lycian, all within incuse square.
    3.08g
    17.18mm

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    Dynasts of Lycia, Perikles. 380-362 BC. AR Third Stater. Lion scalp facing / Triskeles; in one section, bust of Hermes slightly facing left PERIKLE in Lycian, all within incuse square.
    3.06g
    15.91mm


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    Dynasts of Lycia, Perikles. 380-362 BC. AR Third Stater. Lion scalp facing / Triskeles; in one section, bust of Hermes slightly facing left PERIKLE in Lycian, all within incuse square.
    3.14g
    19.86mm

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    Dynasts of Lycia, Perikles. 380-362 BC. AR Third Stater. Lion scalp facing / Triskeles; in one section, bust of Helios slightly facing left, in one section dolphin right, PERIKLE in Lycian, all within incuse square.
    3.07g
    15.74mm


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    Dynasts of Lycia, Perikles. 380-362 BC. AR Third Stater. Lion scalp facing / Triskeles; in one section, bust of Helios slightly facing left, in one section dolphin right, PERIKLE in Lycian, all within incuse square.
    2.62g
    15.01mm

    - Michael
     
  20. TJC

    TJC Well-Known Member

    Great coin ID Ed!

    Nice lot for a great price Bing! I like the Miletos and the Boar.
     
  21. As far as your specific Lycian denominations; I believe they're 1/6 staters or diobols. They use these denominations interchangeably.

    I think the following are correct attributions:
    *They should be around 16mm and just over 1 gram
    *as far as placement of the Lycian letters on the reverse; they come in several placement variations. Your Astragalos example letter placement matches the example I provided; but your dolphin does not.

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    Lycian Dynasts. Mithrapata. Ca. 390-370 B.C. AR 1/6 stater
    Facing lion's scalp / Triskeles within shallow incuse square; in field, astralagos. Cf. Falghera 196; SNG Copenhagen 27

    Another example:
    Astragalos example.jpg

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    Lycian Dynasts. Mithrapata. Ca. 390-370 B.C. AR 1/6 stater
    Facing lion's scalp / Triskeles within shallow incuse square; in field, dolphin. Cf. Falghera 195-6; Cf. SNG Copenhagen Suppl. 476.

    Another Example:
    Dolphin example.jpg

    -Michael
     
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