Newp: "CINA" Quadrans

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by red_spork, Jun 13, 2017.

  1. red_spork

    red_spork Triumvir monetalis

    Hopefully you guys aren't too tired of RR bronzes yet because I'm back with another one that I picked up as part of David Hendin(AmphoraCoins)'s eBay auction that ended Thursday. Of the small group of RR that were posted, this coin immediately stood out to me because it is rare to find bronzes that retain so much detail and come fully struck on a full flan and I knew I had to have it. Luckily, I was able to capture it by the skin of my teeth with a bid about 75 cents above the hammer price.

    The moneyer who signed his coins "CINA" is generally thought to be a member of the Cornelii Cinnae. If that name sounds familiar, it is because you've likely heard of the most well-known member of the family, four-time consul Lucius Cornelius Cinna, whom many authors simply refer to as Cinna. This coin was struck about three quarters of a century before the death of the infamous Cinna and so could not have been struck while he was moneyer, but the timing does line up with the career of his father who was consul in 127 B.C. and both Crawford and Greuber suggest this man is the most likely candidate for the moneyer of these types.

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    Roman Republic Æ quadrans(8.34g, 20.4mm). CINA(L. Cornelius Cinna?) series, 169-158 B.C., Rome mint. Head of hercules right; behind ••• /Prow right; above, CINA; below, ROMA; before, •••. Crawford 178/4; Sydenham 368c; Babelon Cornelia 14

    Ex RBW Collection via David Hendin, Amphora Coins, 6/8/2017, ex Tony Hardy Collection, CNG 61, lot 1174, 9/25/2002. Published on WildWinds.

    As always, please share anything relevant.
     
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  3. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    That's a beauty! Nice provenance too.
     
  4. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    I agree, lovely example.
     
  5. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    Great example
     
  6. Ancient Aussie

    Ancient Aussie Well-Known Member

    Very nice, good pick up.
     
  7. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Never. I love all your coins. This is especially nice.
     
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  8. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Lots of eye-appeal on that quadrans!!!!!

    My 'nameless' example:

    RR quadrans.jpg
     
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  9. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    great coin Mr Zee :D
     
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  10. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    Anonymous. Circa 215-212 BC. Æ Uncia
    Anonymous (post-semilibral), Uncia,Roma, 215-212 BC, AE
    316 Greek Sydenham 108.jpg
     
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  11. red_spork

    red_spork Triumvir monetalis

    This coin is more interesting than you may realize. This coin has a wheat ear(many references refer to it as a corn-ear) above the prow. These types were struck circa 214-212 BC, not in Rome but in Sicily. Many of these are overstruck on Sicilian and Punic types and are likely related to the Roman siege of Syracuse.
     
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  12. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Cool!

    I have never had any RR bronze, and have only seen a few examples in cases at the shows I infrequently attended a decade ago.

    Can't say I've ever held one.
     
  13. David@PCC

    David@PCC allcoinage.com

    Congratulations red_spork, I am definitely low on Republican and would like more. My only rr quadrans.
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    Anonymous
    90 BC
    AE Quadrans
    Obvs: Hercules right, three pellets behind
    Revs: ROMA below prow, three pellets above
    15x17mm, 3.4g
     
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  14. Nerva

    Nerva Well-Known Member

    I'm consumed with envy! I've struggled to buy Republican bronzes that I like. I find them hard to assess from pics, though yours looks fantastic. I have a minor sextans that I'm a but embarrassed by, and only one other - a fabulous Sextans, illustrated. C. 217-215, about 30mm, amazingly sharp. I overpaid for it, but where will I get another like it? Apologies for poor picture quality, which doesn't do justice. I really want to find it some worthy companions. IMG_0154.JPG IMG_0157.JPG
     
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  15. red_spork

    red_spork Triumvir monetalis

    Wow. That really is an excellent sextans. This period had the largest of all the struck sextantes as well as some of the finest style of all, as yours shows. That's the kind of coin that's absolutely worth overpaying for.
     
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  16. akeady

    akeady Well-Known Member

    I have the triens version - [​IMG]
     
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  17. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    Anonymous, As, Rome, 157/156 BC Janus I Galley I Roma After 211 BC. 422 Greek BMC217.jpg
     
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  19. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Nice nice NICE! @red_spork ! I cannot post for a wile, but wanted to LIKE your OP!
     
  20. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Ummmm... NOPE! NEVER tire of the Republic, and Quadrans are always cool!

    A very recent one from @John Anthony ...
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    RR Anon Æ Quadrans 18mm 3.6g Rome 206-195 BCE Hercules lions skin pellet - ROMA Prow 3 pellets Cr 339-4a Syd 679c

    Frentani - Larinum AE 18mm Quadrans 210-175 BCE Herakles - Centaur SNG COP 272.JPG
    Italia: The Frentani - Larinum AE 18mm 4g Quadrans 210-175 BCE Herakles - Centaur SNG COP 272

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    RR Anon AE 28mm 19.2g Quadrans - Sicily mint 214-212 BCE Hercules-Erymanthian boar headress - Bull ex RBW Craw 72-7

    RR Aes Grave AE Quadrans 230 BCE Dog 3 pellets Six spoked wheel 59.8g Craw 26-6a Th-Vecchi 34.JPG
    RR Aes Grave AE Quadrans 230 BCE Dog 3 pellets Six spoked wheel 59.8g Craw 26-6a Th-Vecchi 34
     
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  21. akeady

    akeady Well-Known Member

    I got this rather corroded CINA as (Cr. 178/1) in the last Naville auction - ex. E.E. Clain-Stefanelli collection:
    CINA_as.jpg
     
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