True 1982 zinc ddr??

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  1. NewCollectorRick

    NewCollectorRick Active Member

    Think I found a winner here guys. I've never felt more certain but still like to hear from others. 0611170409.jpg 0611170353a.jpg 0611170353b.jpg 0611170356.jpg 0611170356~2.jpg 0611170400c.jpg 0611170400d.jpg 0611170400e.jpg 0611170400b.jpg 0611170400.jpg
     
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  3. Trevor B.

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    My verdict is mechanical doubling
     
  4. NewCollectorRick

    NewCollectorRick Active Member

    Wow. Really? I'm so bad at this. I thought I had a good one. This thing is definitely layered and not flat. I need a better camera. I've tried the 10x loupe but screen scratched so not so great. If its mechanical will it always be flat or can it be raised?
     
  5. NewCollectorRick

    NewCollectorRick Active Member

    This coin has the doubled head and arches of columns. This one has a die clash on reverse behind columns.
     
  6. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    I say Mechanical Doubling also.
    The Obverse side is a Misaligned Die strike.
     
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  7. NewCollectorRick

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    Well darn. For being a hobby it sure does have some ups and downs. At least I'm learning to not jump the gun and 2x2 something without checking with you guys. I've wasted so many. Ha.
     
  8. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    It takes time and patience my friend. Believe me... 31 years of collecting Mint errors and varieties I have gone through thousands of coins... many Post mint damage, Die Deterioration, Mechanical Doubling, Counterfeits..
    You know what job has its ups and downs?......An elevator mechanic! :wacky:
     
  9. Trevor B.

    Trevor B. Member

    Haha good one!
     
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  10. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Wexler, DDR #1 .
    Here's the description and images .

    1982 1¢ WDDR-001

    Description: Strong extra thickness shows on USA, EPU, the designer’s initials, and ONE. Separation lines are visible on AMERICA and the D in UNITED.

    Die Markers: Obverse: Small Date Zinc. A die scratch runs north from the upper left of the I in LIBERTY. Reverse: Heavy E/W die scratches run NNW/SSE through the statue of Lincoln. A die gouge (dot) can be found to the right of the upper T in CENT. Two die gouges can be found below the right side of the N in ONE.

    Submitted By: Peter Beane

    Cross References: None known

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  11. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Hey.. so you are saying it is a DDR? ok
     
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  12. Rick Stachowski

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    AMERICA tells the story .
    I cropped and added extra back ground light to the op image
    ( full shot ) .
    51.jpg
     
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  13. Rick Stachowski

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    Rick, here's the one I own and it's the same as your .
    SingleShot0000-00.jpg
     
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  14. NewCollectorRick

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    So I now have 2 of them then from the same set of $16 in hand wrapped rolls. So many mint coins from entire 80s and early 90s. Some look and feel like proofs but no s. Just nice strike. 85 and 94 especially. It has been a good lot. Making me take my time with them.
    Thanks for the help folks.
     
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  15. Ordinary Fool

    Ordinary Fool Active Member

    Another patented CoinTalk automatic and gratuitous dismissal overturned.
     
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  16. Rick Stachowski

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    A lot of the DDR(s) from the mid. to early dates have the same kind of doubling . Here's a 85 I own, not much different .
    SingleShot0045.jpg SingleShot0025-crop.jpg
     
  17. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    :bored:... Talk about gratuitous
     
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  18. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    In all fairness, it's the OP fault .
    I would of said the same thing on the MD .
    That's why images like E . PLU. should of been cropped .

    Why, because the outside devices look like their MD .
    Remember, OP was catching images of E. PLU.
    All of the outside devices are way out of wack, to use as images .

    Now, here's where level and plumb play a very special roll, on the outside devices .
     
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  19. Ordinary Fool

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    Well stop it, it's easy enough to bookmark the handful of sites that have attributations for modern coinage and quickly take a peek. Not all Doubled Dies look like a 1955 or 1969 eye crossers, and you very well know that too.

    The left side of the Memorial is most likely MD, but....one of many on the list mined from this site after being automatically gang-dismissed would be:

    that 1979 nickel, with the morbidly obese outer devices that yall just as automatically shot down, which was most likely in fact, an unattributed variety and others have definitely since been found. Class II DDO I believe.

    Stash, the E, D and S on this one....... looks very early compared to 001. Your thoughts?

    I hear you on matching up the pix to those found with the attributations. However, take those huge high resolution pix at CW, I can slice and rotate them any way I need too and most leave virtually nothing to question. Simple enough on any Windows machine with the native photoviewer.

    Many there are quite adequate for serious die studies and I am certain 30 years ago, serious numismatists never imagined imaging coins would be as easy as it is today. It's only going to get better from now with automatic macro image stacking close to being on very capable cellphones.
     
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  20. NewCollectorRick

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  21. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    I'm all about looking at the staging of the varieties .
    OP is a very late state and I think if the OP took new images of those areas your talking about and made them level and plumb .

    They would look a lot different .
     
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