Pertinax Sestertius, second attempt

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What do you think about this Pertinax?

  1. I think it is a Paduan

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  2. I think it is a 19/20th century cast

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  3. I think it is a modern forgery

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  4. I think it is genuine, but I don´t like it´s style, wear, or patina

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  5. I think it is genuine, but if I were you, I would not spend 1000 USD for it

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    58.8%

  6. I think it is genuine and if I would collect Sestertii like you, I would go and buy it

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    41.2%
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  1. Julius Germanicus

    Julius Germanicus Well-Known Member

    Hi friends,

    after I have learned the hard way that there are more forgeries than genuine Sestertii of the rarer Emperors on the market (I had bad experiences with Drusus, Pupienus, Pertinax and Matidia myself lately, eventhough I bought most of those from respected dealers) and on the other hand have enjoyed great help from you guys so far, I would like to ask you what you think of this Pertinax (30 mm / 21,06 gr / 12 h).

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  3. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    It certainly appears to be a terrific coin. I hope those with far greater expertise will determine it's a genuine ancient example. :)
     
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  4. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    It looks genuine to me, so I would go ahead and pull the trigger. However, I am not an expert in determining what is a forgery and what is not - I'm sure others with more experience will chime in
     
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  5. Aethelred

    Aethelred The Old Dead King

    I think it is a nice looking coin.
     
    Aethelred, Jun 8, 2017
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  6. Eduard

    Eduard Supporter**

    That one looks nice and 'OK' from here.
    Nothing screams keep away.
     
    Eduard, Jun 8, 2017
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  7. KIWITI

    KIWITI Well-Known Member

    Ditto all the above.
     
    KIWITI, Jun 8, 2017
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  8. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Ditto again
     
    Bing, Jun 8, 2017
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  9. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Tritto :)
     
    Alegandron, Jun 8, 2017
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  10. ziggy9

    ziggy9 *NEC SPERNO NEC TIMEO*

    quadritto?
     
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  11. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    I would not be confident in my sole ability to determine authenticity, but once that was independently established and confirmed by trustworthy experts, I'd go for it, as I think it quite handsome.

    I am reasonably confident in thinking it does not have the look of a Paduan.
     
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  12. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    Oh- one other minor detail which might mean nothing:

    Note on this coin how the left portion of the obverse legends are better struck and more defined than the portion at right: his name. That to me is encouraging, since many fakers wishing to cash in on demand for a scarce emperor (or 16th century artisans creating a "Paduan" copy) would see to it that the name was very prominent, if you know what I mean.

    I know nothing for certain- and couldn't vote any option in the poll that fit me- but this is one small detail that stood out for me. I seem to recall another Pertinax bronze posted not long ago where the name was as bold as brass (pun unintended), and while that in itself was evidence of nothing conclusive, it made me wonder. People who counterfeit merchandise are all about the brand names on the label.
     
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  13. Pishpash

    Pishpash Well-Known Member

    I can't find the Bacon vote......
     
    Pishpash, Jun 8, 2017
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  14. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    Exactly. This poll needed a properly nonsensical food option so I could vote (note guacamole inclusion in my latest poll), or at the very least, an "I don't know".

    As an "I don't know" who leans toward liking the coin in the OP, I probably come closest to the last option in this poll, but with an added bit of due caution and uncertainty.
     
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  15. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I cast a vote for I don't know, but I wouldn't spend $1000 USD. But, like @lordmarcovan said, add bacon and I'll vote for anything you want.
     
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  16. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    Add bacon, and give dogs and cats the vote, and I will be elected president of the United States - nay - the World - nay yet - the UNIVERSE, by my large personal constituency alone.

    But do not worry. I shall be a wholly benevolent despot.
     
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  17. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    I think that the OP-coin looks awesome (they always look awesome to me)

    Ummm, but I may reconsider hunting coins with "that look that you like" ... it seems to be letting you down a bit too much lately?

    Oh => but I know how you feel (you like the looks of 'em => dog will hunt)

    ... I'm the same way with my favourites (I see a "type" and I want it!!)

    Good luck, Julius-G (you seem like a great guy, so I wish nothing but the best for you and your coins)
     
    stevex6, Jun 8, 2017
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  18. Julius Germanicus

    Julius Germanicus Well-Known Member

    Yes, that was me who fell for that one...

    Thanks! I did it again and Pertinax Nr.2 is on the way to me :).
    I´ll post it here once I have it...
     
    Julius Germanicus, Jun 28, 2017
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  19. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    Good luck! Will be a tough emperor to check off the list.

    Besides, "Pertinax" is a cool-sounding name.
     
    lordmarcovan, Jun 28, 2017
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  20. Eduard

    Eduard Supporter**

    Well, least one can say is, you don't give up, do you?:)
    Will be looking forward to seeing your new Pertinax.
     
    Eduard, Jun 28, 2017
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  21. Nerva

    Nerva Well-Known Member

    'Pertinax' is always my first-choice auction ID. But I've never actually used it, because it's always been taken :-(
     
    Nerva, Jun 28, 2017
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