1883-O for grading

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Mark Metzger, Jun 5, 2017.

  1. NorthKorea

    NorthKorea Dealer Member is a made up title...

    BTW, I wouldn't trust zt9 (who I assume sold this coin) for assessing "E"-clash coins. His pictures are horrible, and the one time I won one, it clearly wasn't an E-clash in hand. That said, he does have a decent return policy.
     
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  3. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    Can't really blame people like that though as he obviously wasn't a VAMmer because it wasn't even a 36. Even VAMmers see phantom E's when nothing is there all the time so a non VAMmer thinking they see an E is quite common. Sometimes I even think I see an E on a coin and get excited only to remind myself to look for other clashing and duh, none is present anywhere lol
     
  4. Dave Waterstraat

    Dave Waterstraat Well-Known Member

    OK Russ....:p
     
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  5. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    Funny you say that. Where's @SuperDave lol
     
  6. NorthKorea

    NorthKorea Dealer Member is a made up title...

    I understand that the ear gouge wasn't present (which the seller photos should have shown). Now, as for not blaming folks, I don't know where I sit on that one. I feel this way:

    I don't trust his opinion on clashes. As such, if I buy a coin from him, and it turns out not to be clashed, I don't file a SNAD either. Why? As you said, he can't tell.

    Now that said, I do blame sellers like that, as they're claiming something on the hopes that more people will bid on their listings. Imagine if the OP didn't post this thread: he would have been stuck with a coin that, not only wasn't a 36A, but also was likely cleaned.
     
  7. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    Near as I can tell, pretty much all 36A's have the clashing at the top of the cap on the obverse, an uncommon spot for prominent clashing in the absence of other obverse clash markers. It'd have been clearly visible in any of these images (are these seller or buyer images?) even if the "E" weren't.
     
  8. Mark Metzger

    Mark Metzger Well-Known Member

    They were the buyers images. The images on the listing were shoddy at best. I purchased on the promise of the VAM.
     
  9. NorthKorea

    NorthKorea Dealer Member is a made up title...

    A couple of things. Again, assuming the seller was zt9, this was the obverse image from the auction:

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    Pretty obvious that it's not a 36a, as it's not a 36 of any type (no ear gouge and no clashes above phrygian cap. I have a feeling that the purchase was partially (mostly?) influenced by the non-PL appearance of mirrored fields:

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    Here's an actual 36a, so people understand the ear gouge and clashes above the cap:

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  10. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    I was referring to Dave's comment in jokingly calling me Russ lol
     
  11. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    Too dang many Daves around here. :p
     
  12. jtlee321

    jtlee321 Well-Known Member


    Someone talking about me eh?

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