Ancients => Capricorn versus Scorpion (any side-bets?)

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  1. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Well, this is my 4th and final CNG-score from last Wednesday's auction ...

    This last minute pickup was definitely a random & thrifty purchase!!

    The initial estimate for this cool coins was $150 => so I swooped-in at the last second to snag it for an opening-bid steal => $90 Hammer


    Not only do I love this sweet animal-combo coin, but it is also my first "Capricorn" example (*tick*) ..... so yah, this was a no-brainer (I wanted this coin!!)


    Sure, the green spots are a bit concerning, but the fact that Ardy mentioned some "encrustations" made me fell a bit more at ease about pulling the trigger (I don't mind hard green crusties at all ... ummm, but it's the powdery ones that give me the creeps)

    ... anyway ...

    => I love this new score and I'm hoping that you dudes will love it as well

    CYPRUS. Pseudo-autonomous issue. Æ16
    Time of Augustus(?), 27 BC-AD 14
    Diameter: 16 mm
    Weight: 2.64 grams
    Obverse: Capricorn right; above, six-pointed star
    Reverse: Scorpion; six-pointed star to right
    Reference: Amandry, Julio-Claudien I, Group 6; RPC I 3916 and Suppl. 3916 note
    Other: 11h … VF, brown patina, some encrustation


    Cypprus Capricorn & Scorpion.jpg


    :rolleyes:
     
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  3. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    Winna winna scorpion winna :p

    Seriously, great coin. It is probably my favorite from the 4.
     
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  4. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Very cool! That probably has some astrological/astronomical significance, I would think. Do we know what circumstances surrounded its issue? What was going on in the sky at the time?
     
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  5. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Ummm, sorry => "please" post any relevant-enough examples of things ...

    Coins
    Food
    Capricorn examples
    Scorpion Examples
    Star examples
    Examples of examples
    Underpants
    Etc
     
  6. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Here's my capricorn coin:

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    Cornelia Supera, wife of Aemelian. Augusta, 253 CE.
    Mysia, Parium. Æ (20.5mm, 3.78g).
    Struck 253 CE.
    Obv: G CORN SUPERA, diademed and draped bust right.
    Rev: C. G. I. H. P., Capricorn right, cornucopia on back; globe between legs (Sear describes as a star, but this appears to be a globe).
    Refs: SGI 4408 (var.); SNG Von Aulock 7448.
     
  7. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Awesome, thanks Roman Collector

    :rolleyes:

    Hmmm ... well, perhaps I'll even it up by tossing-in another one of my scorpion examples

    KINGS of COMMAGENE
    Antiochos IV Epiphanes Æ28

    AD 38-72
    Diameter: 28 mm
    Weight: 15.57 grams
    Obverse: Diademed and draped bust right
    Reverse: Scorpion within wreath
    Reference: RPC I 3854; AC 199 (obv. legend)
    Other: 12h … Near VF, earthen brown patina, rubbed on the high points, two long scratches near obverse edge


    Kings of Commagene.jpg
     
  8. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    Really cool coin! Animals on both sides! That's a winner for sure!

    When I went to China, I found out that scorpions were apparently an edible delicacy. So I guess "Winna Winna Scorpion Dinna" is an applicable phrase.
     
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  9. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Had them several times! Eat'em up YUM!
     
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  10. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Capricorn and a scorpion.....how can I not LOVE it!! Congrats once again Steve!!!
     
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  11. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    That's three things I want in a coin - capricorn, scorpion, struck in Cyprus. Great pickup!
     
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  12. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Love the Capricorn lil bro.
     
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  13. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    Great coin. Here is my Capricorn.
    ric 126 augustus.jpg
     
  14. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Scratches is not the word I would have used. Note mine has just one at the top. I see this as pre-minting 'damage' perhaps having something to do with the flan preparation. IDK. Who does? Too many things to study!
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  15. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    :rolleyes:

    Yah, I merely inherited those "scratch-comments" from the seller ... I totally agree that these marks look more like mint-type marks (thanks for commenting, Mentor)


    Kings of Commagene a.jpg
     
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  16. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    A perfect Steve coin! Your Commagene is fabulous too-- I keep looking for one but always like yours better.


    Don't think I have any Capricorns but I have a fat scorpion for this thread :). It's a teensy tiny coin but packed with great designs.

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    CARIA, Mylasa
    450-400 BCE
    AR hemiobol, 7 x 9 mm, 0.5 gm
    Obv: facing forepart of lion
    Rev: scorpion within incuse square
    Ref: SNG von Aulock 7803
     
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  17. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    This is a really neat type. Congrats
     
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  18. Nerva

    Nerva Well-Known Member

    Another great one! But given that lions are more usually shown in a rather fiercer pose, could that be a lion skin, related to Hercules, rather than a lion?
     
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  19. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    I suspect it is really a flayed lion skin, but that's just a guess.
     
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  20. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    So, it seems like you folks liked my four CNG coins well-enough, eh? (thanks)

    Here they are again for a final curtain call ...

    THESSALY, Pharkadon. Æ Dichalkon
    Circa 400-350 BC
    Diameter: 17 mm
    Weight: 4.23 grams
    Obverse: Horse grazing right
    Reverse: Crescent
    Reference: BCD Thessaly I –; cf. BCD Thessaly II 623.1-2; HGC 4, 309
    Other: 8h … VF, red and black patina
    From the BCD Collection


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    ISLANDS off TROAS, Tenedos. AR Obol
    Late 5th-early 4th century BC
    Diameter: 8 mm
    Weight: 0.55 grams
    Obverse: Janiform head of a diademed female left and laureate male right
    Reverse: Labrys in linear border within shallow incuse square
    Reference: SNG Ashmolean 1235; HGC 6, 387
    Other: 6h … Near VF, toned
    CNG 398 – Lot #168


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    IONIA, Ephesos. AR Drachm
    Circa 500-420 BC
    Diameter: 16 mm
    Weight: 3.19 grams
    Obverse: Bee with spiral antennas and no front legs; no ethnic
    Reverse: Quadripartite incuse square
    Reference: Karwiese Series VI, Type 1A; SNG Kayhan 119 var. (obv. border type)
    Other: VF, irregular flan, some roughness


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    CYPRUS. Pseudo-autonomous issue. Æ16
    Time of Augustus(?), 27 BC-AD 14
    Diameter: 16 mm
    Weight: 2.64 grams
    Obverse: Capricorn right; above, six-pointed star
    Reverse: Scorpion; six-pointed star to right
    Reference: Amandry, Julio-Claudien I, Group 6; RPC I 3916 and Suppl. 3916 note
    Other: 11h … VF, brown patina, some encrustation


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    I'll play a card from Ro's deck and predict that you guys liked these coins in the following order (rated by the number of likes they received in their OP-posts) ... sure, it's only one data point, eh?

    :rolleyes:

    1) Phark It (horse & crescent) => 35 likes ..... runaway favourite!!

    2) Janus & Axe => 23 likes
    3) Buzzy Bee => 23 likes
    4) Capricorn & Scorpion => 24 likes

    ... the final three coins seemed like a "tie" (I love them all ... but I probably like the bee the best)

    Thanks again for your comments (I always appreciate feedback)
     
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  21. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    MC Hammer 90 :D
    MYSIA, Parium Hadrian Ae 20 Capricorn 846 P Hadrian RPC1541.JPG
     
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