Is this stamping considered damage?

Discussion in 'Paper Money' started by iPen, May 27, 2017.

  1. iPen

    iPen Well-Known Member

    Here's a 1993 Yugoslavian 5000 Dinara hyperinflation banknote with a portrait of Tesla. But the unique attribute is that it has a Dayton Accords stamping. I'm not sure if that's an official stamping to commemorate the Dayton Accords, or if that's done unofficially by a private institution or an individual.

    Does anyone know?

    Thanks in advance!


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  3. moneycostingmemoney

    moneycostingmemoney Yukon Coriolis

    It's definitely post-print, but with the historical significance I don't think a collector of this type of note would consider it "damage." I see postage stamping when looking for bills to add to my collection (like VJ Day on a Hawaii $1 SC) so I looked into this. I couldn't find anything as far as the origin or if it was a piece of a set, but I did find this.

    http://m.ebay.com/itm/1993-Yugoslav...Dayton-Accords-Republika-Srpska-/272690025635

    Very cool note!
     
  4. iPen

    iPen Well-Known Member

    Yeah I can't find any further info either. And, that banknote is from that eBay listing!

    It seems to be uncommon, but I'm hoping that it's stamped in some official capacity.
     
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  5. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    Stamping does in allot of cases decrease value anything that is not common
    For the note, though i would not consider it to be graffiti.
     
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  6. Numbers

    Numbers Senior Member

    The stamp looks a bit like a postmark, maybe? If that's what it is, this might be analogous to the postmarked U.S. $2 bills one occasionally sees--not an "official" marking, but often considered collectible.

    I have no idea whether this is actually what Yugoslavian postmarks looked like, though.
     
  7. lettow

    lettow Senior Member

    The postmark is from a stamp show held in Belgrade on December 13, 1995. You can find postal covers with a similar postmark. Note the postage stamp in the center of this postmark.
     
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  8. iPen

    iPen Well-Known Member

    So it's an official stamp by Yugoslavia's post office, right?

    I don't want to make that conclusion, as I don't know as much about paper money or stamps, as I do with coins.
     
  9. moneycostingmemoney

    moneycostingmemoney Yukon Coriolis

    I can't say for sure, but it appears to be such. The fact that it has the date and a stamp like @lettow mentioned it may be safe to say it is. I googled Yugoslavian Postmarks and there are many varieties of them.
    If this was a high value item I'd do a lot of research to ensure that. I'm not saying it's not valuable to the right collector, but I don't see anyone taking the time to counterfeit a stamp to add validity to its claim of originality. Take for example the US Hawaii overprint silver certificate. To me a postmark would make it less desirable even though I'm a history buff...at the end of the day I'm a paper currency collector. To a WWII historical artifacts collector the VJ Day postmark may add to its display in their Pacific Theater case and would be willing to pay more for it with the stamp rather than without.
    If I was you and collecting them because of the historical significance and I liked them enough to spend $20 for them...I'd squeeze. Especially because you'd be getting the other bills likely stamped with this one as a "set". Doing more research on the bills and the significance behind the Dayton Accords may help you decide as well.
    This is all my opinion though and to be taken with the weight of its fee, because I'm not an expert in these bills or the postmark.
     
  10. lettow

    lettow Senior Member

    It is a Belgrade postmark applied by the post office. Does that make it "official". I don't know. The US post office will put a postmark on just about anything.

    The postmark relates to the Belgrade stamp expo. It has nothing to with the Dayton Accords.
     
  11. moneycostingmemoney

    moneycostingmemoney Yukon Coriolis

    I guess I should clarify something from my winded statement above-
    Even though a postmark from a post office is official, by definition, all it would help prove is that the article stamped was in existence the date it was postmarked. The only Dayton Accords connection would be the date of it's (DA) signing was the day after this postmark was stamped on this bill.
     
  12. iPen

    iPen Well-Known Member

    I believe that the Dayton Accords started the day after on 14 December 1995.

    Maybe it's just coincidence, or all of these events coincided around the same time given the newfound peace in the region.
     
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