Three Graces in Miniature on Unlisted Denarius of Faustina II

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  1. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Many of us do. No supestitions here.
     
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  3. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    No superstition here either-- I just prefer to use my own photographs so I have to wait for the coins :).
     
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  4. ro1974

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  5. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Lol, i just admit i am a rotten photographer. So, yeah, i have a lot of seller pics... :)
     
  6. Roman Collector

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  7. ro1974

    ro1974 Well-Known Member

    :)
     

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  8. ro1974

    ro1974 Well-Known Member

    Faustina Jr IVNO Dupondius.jpg
    here you see real good 3 graces, great coin
     
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  9. ro1974

    ro1974 Well-Known Member

    1877316.jpg
    wow
    - für Crispina. AV-Aureus, 180/183, Rom; 7,22 g. CRISPINA-AVGVSTA Drapierte Büste r. //VENVS-FELIX Venus sitzt l. mit Victoria und Zepter, unter dem Sitz Taube l. BMC 47; Coh. 39; RIC 287.
    Vorzügliches Prachtexemplar
    Hier wird ein Typ von Faustina filia (BMC 169, AR) wiederaufgenommen. Zuerst taucht Venus Felix unter Hadrian auf Münzen auf, gehört dann aber zum Prägeprogramm der kaiserlichen Damen und hält sich bis zu Fausta.
     
  10. Smojo

    Smojo dreamliner

    I'm getting to where I use the seller pics. The time I waste taking a subpar photo isn't worth it. That and it takes away from my visitation time with my coins.
     
  11. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    That's not really true. Through the years, many people have been interested in unofficial coinage and there has been quite a lot written. I even included a metallurgical analysis of some unofficial VLPP's in my master's thesis.

    below are some articles and books in no particular order.

    Pierre Bastien was very interested in unofficial coinage and wrote possibly the best article on them- “Imitations of Late Roman Bronze Coins, 318-363.”

    Kathy King wrote a great article “Roman Copies.” in Coin Finds and Coin Use in the Roman World.

    George Boon “Counterfeit Coins in Roman Britain.”

    Kevin Butcher “The Maidenhatch Farm Hoard of Constantinian Copies” The Numismatic Chronicle 152

    Andreas Alföldi, “Materialen zur Klassifizierung der gleichzeitigen Nachahmungen von römischen Münzen aus Ungarn und den Nachbärlandern.” Numizmatikai közlöny 25

    Arthur E. Robinson, “False and Imitation Roman Coins,” The Journal of Antiquarian Association of the British Isles 2, no. 3 (December 1931)

    P. V. Hill, “Barbarous Imitations of Fourth-Century Roman Coins,” The Numismatic Chronicle 10

    J. P. C. Kent, “Barbarous Copies of Roman Coins: Their Significance for the British Historian and Archaeologist.” Limes-Studien 14

    J. P. Callu and J. P. Garnier, “Minimi constantiniens trouvés à Reims, Appendice II: Corpus des imitations.” Numismatica e Antichità Classiche 6

    King, “The Alloy Content of Folles and Imitations from the Woodeaton Hoard.” PACT 1 (1977)

    R. J. Brickstock,"Copies of the FEL TEMP REPARATIO Coinage in Britain" British Archeaological Reports

    Matthias Pfisterer and Heinz Winter, “Eine Sammlung barbarisierter spätrömischer Münzen aus Carnuntum,” Mitteilungen der Österreichischen Numismatische Gesellschaft volume 41, no.2
     
  12. dougsmit

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    My opinions are based on my background which is Severan. That is a great list for 4th century.
     
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  13. Nemesis

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  14. curtislclay

    curtislclay Well-Known Member

    I have a Three Graces denarius too, acquired from Dionysos, eBay, 28 May 2014; from the same dies as the Valencia museum specimen that you illustrate above.

    Note that the aureus you show, Staal's denarius, and the BM denarius have Faustina's latest lifetime hairstyle, which continues for her as Diva. Your specimen, Valencia's, and mine, however, have a different and presumably slightly earlier coiffure, with several rows of waved hair descending diagonally from the top of her head towards her bun.

    Two noteworthy features of your reverse: a broad throne back, apparently extended so that it could surround the top half of the transverse scepter; and the footstool below Venus' feet, which was omitted on the aureus shown above and on the BM denarius.

    At first glance, this Three Graces denarius would appear to be recorded in BMC, p. 407, no. *, citing an article in Revue belge de Num. 1880, p. 62. However that coin is actually an aureus in the Lyon collection; BMC was mistaken to call it a denarius!
     
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  15. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Thanks for revisiting this thread and for your comments about this issue. It's always a welcome and educational experience to hear from you, @curtislclay.
     
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