Acetone Made Silver Ike worse

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Bman33, May 29, 2017.

  1. Bman33

    Bman33 Well-Known Member

    I bought a 1971 Blue Ike Saturday. Dealer said to give acetone bath because it was stored in PVC plastic (which it came in the mint from). So I gave it a bath and now it looks worse. There are white blemishes on the cheek and neck that weren't there before. Anyone know how this could be? IMG_0760.JPG
     
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  3. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    Because the acetone removed what was covering those smudges. They are likely permanent damage from PVC.

    Acetone is chemically incapable of altering the appearance of a coin, excepting in rare cases with copper where you have to work to get the conditions right. Think, performing the dip in your yard, in bright sunlight on the most humid day of the year, in a glass which is wet with rinse water, and allowing the acetone to evaporate. Conditions like that.
     
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  4. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    Bath was too long? Not pure acetone (nail polish remover)?
     
  5. Bman33

    Bman33 Well-Known Member

    It was pure Acetone. As far as time I don't know if it matters much.
     
  6. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    The area under whatever the acetone removed did not tone the same as the rest of the coin.
     
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  7. Bman33

    Bman33 Well-Known Member

    Well it was in the cheap pvc packaging for over 40 years. It's no big deal, only a $10 coin. I'll just get another one.
     
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  8. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    Yep, what the other have said.
    The acetone removed the PVC which exposed the damage underneath that the PVC had done.
     
  9. Bman33

    Bman33 Well-Known Member

    This is kind of lame though. I wanted to start an Ike collection and if I have to spend a lot of time conserving Brown and Blue Ike's then I am not excited.
     
  10. calcol

    calcol Supporter! Supporter

    Did the U.S. mint ever use PVC for its packaging? I think they've used cellophane, polyester, and various hard, clear plastics (polystyrene, acrylic, maybe polycarbonate).

    Cal
     
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  11. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I didn't think they used any PVC with the Ike's but figured the OP coin must have had something on it.
     
  12. Bman33

    Bman33 Well-Known Member

    The dealer said the plastic was PVC
     
  13. calcol

    calcol Supporter! Supporter

    If the packaging was the packaging in the pic, I'm pretty sure it's not PVC. The PVC that causes problems is PVC that has been made soft and flexible with the addition of various plasticizers. PVC itself can be manufactured to be pretty inert, which is why it can be used for pipes approved to carry drinking water. High grade PVC w/o plasticizers is rigid. It can be manufactured clear, but I don't think clear, rigid PVC has been used for coin packaging.

    I don't think the capsule in the pic is sonically sealed, so no knowing the history of the coin before it last entered the coffin.

    Cal
     
  14. Bman33

    Bman33 Well-Known Member

    I threw it in the airtite. It came in the mint packaging in the Blue envelope. The plastic it came in was PVC according to dealer.
     
  15. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    Interesting. It seems reasonable to think that the original sealed plastic from the Mint is airtight, so whatever affected the coin was either present when it was sealed, or the plastic in which you received it wasn't original and it got exposed sometime later. Did it still include the Mint token in the packaging you bought?
     
  16. Bman33

    Bman33 Well-Known Member

    Yes, it had the token. It was Legit.
     
  17. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Variety Nerd

    Cellophane packaging not PVC
     
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  18. Blissskr

    Blissskr Well-Known Member

    The coin likely had something on it. I've seen ones with spots and fingerprints, etc. The mint didn't give these first year silver Ike's any type of special handling which leads to a lot of them being sub par. You really have to pick through to find the true gems imo.
     
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  19. COCollector

    COCollector Well-Known Member

    Make it a pocket piece.

    After a few decades you'll have a nicely worn blue Ike. VERY rare! That is, not many silver Ikes get circulated.
     
  20. Bman33

    Bman33 Well-Known Member

    The screwy thing is the coin didn't look too bad until I actetoned it. I still can't figure out what happened. If it was cellophane and not PVC why did the acetone make it worse?
     
  21. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Did the coin rub against anything when you gave it the acetone bath?
     
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