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  1. fish4uinmd

    fish4uinmd Well-Known Member

    If you looked up "copper cent" on a color chart, this picture would be it!
     
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  3. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/182581077070?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

    S-121a Obv.jpg S-121a Rev.jpg

    This will be either a very expensive S-121b or a very inexpensive S-121a. It is called a plain edge by the seller, but there is no way of knowing whether they know the difference between the plain edge of 1795 and the plain edge of 1797.

    In fact, this variety usually comes with a gripped edge and that sub-variety is the S-121b. The "plain edge" sub-variety is the S-121a and actually shows a beaded edge. That sub-variety was discounted by Sheldon and others since they believed they were just normal gripped edge coins which had been tooled to remove the grip marks. Later study showed it to actually have the beaded edge device also seen more frequently on the S-120a. Breen speculated that this variety could have a true plain edge like that of 1797 NC-1 which uses the same 1795 style reverse and would be a new sub-variety to be called S-121c.

    So I could have the common S-121b which is simply mislabeled, the rare S-121a (R6 to R7 depending on the number of "plain edge" 121s you think have been tooled from a gripped edge) or a discovery coin with a true plain edge.

    I anxiously await it's arrival so I can examine the edge.
     
  4. Travlntiques

    Travlntiques Well-Known Member

    Ty Fish!

    And wowzers, it looks like another toned gold piece for @jwitten lol. Someone is cornering the market!

    Since we're talking gold, here is one I bought during my absence. Already had a 1908 $2.50, but this was a pretty massive upgrade....more luster than the pics indicate and probably my best one yet!
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  5. Travlntiques

    Travlntiques Well-Known Member

    Very impressive knowledge of these EAC's! Great find potentially, I wish you well!
     
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  6. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    Nice clash of the Eagle on the Indian's neck, too. ANACS will grade it as clashed, the others won't.
     
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  7. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    I'm not sure if it means anything yet, but this wear pattern reminds me of the 1796 concavo-convex blanks. If it was, then the chances of this being a new sub-variety go up greatly since the known sub-varieties are thought to have used Coltman Blanks.

    I just read back and see that the concavo-convex blanks were also made by Coltman.
     
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  8. Hugh Stiel

    Hugh Stiel Made in New Orleans

    Thanks, Mark
     
  9. Hugh Stiel

    Hugh Stiel Made in New Orleans

    Thanks
     
  10. Hugh Stiel

    Hugh Stiel Made in New Orleans

    Thanks everybody ... you to Jello :)
     
  11. Hugh Stiel

    Hugh Stiel Made in New Orleans

    I havent seen one with two plus's. Then
    Your to nice John Doe, Thanks, I cant take the credit for pictures as you can see.
     
  12. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    I just found another S-121a with a similar wear pattern.

    S-121a Obv.jpg S-121a Rev.jpg
     
  13. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator


    You made me laugh at myself Hugh . . . that's a perfect example of me focusing only on the coin and almost completely ignoring the holder.

    - Mike
     
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  14. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    Looking at the Heritage Archives and the Holmes sale, it appears that at least 4 of the 7 1797 NC-1s are also on concavo-convex blanks or at least have a wear pattern that is similar. Three show reverse concave (central strength/perimeter weakness) and one obverse concave. The convex side shows the opposite or Central Weakness/perimeter strength. Two are uncertain, and the Holmes NC-1 shows no CC wear pattern.
     
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  15. Hugh Stiel

    Hugh Stiel Made in New Orleans

    This is a newp and I'd love to hear from other $20 or O mints collectors opinion on grading, eye appeal and if anyone know the history of this coin. Sellers are shower less and less past history on coins and pictures , other than their on site. I'm sure they have good reason. IMG_4312.JPG IMG_4317.JPG IMG_4318.JPG
     
  16. Hugh Stiel

    Hugh Stiel Made in New Orleans

    I'm double dipping a little. The first post of these was from dealer. I like mine better. I can zoom down with my little iPhone and see everything ;) IMG_4320.JPG IMG_4321.JPG IMG_4322.JPG IMG_4324.JPG IMG_4325.JPG IMG_4327.JPG IMG_4329.JPG
     
  17. Hugh Stiel

    Hugh Stiel Made in New Orleans

    I thought this could be fun. This coinhas a CAC Gold Sticker. Do you agree it is undergraded and what grade would you grade it and where, NGC Or PCGS? Presently, 1881
    G$1 PCGS MS61 Gold CAC ex J S Morgan Collection I've heard of JP but don't have a clue who JS Morgan is. Although I've dealt with a couple of JS's . You too!
     

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  18. Johndoe2000$

    Johndoe2000$ Well-Known Member

    Just gorgeous coins, all of them. I couldn't tell you about grade on any gold from my past experience, but I wouldn't want to risk a gold bean, unless it's well worth it.
     
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  19. Hugh Stiel

    Hugh Stiel Made in New Orleans

  20. Hugh Stiel

    Hugh Stiel Made in New Orleans

    Above one coin is new and one I had a while.
    I'm not sure which one to keep and which to sell. They are close. Any suggestions???
    Hugh
     
  21. dwhiz

    dwhiz Collector Supporter

    I would keep them both but I like the AU 53 better. Why would I keep both well they are both Type 1 $20 gold. Pre-Civil war and a mintage of only 6600
    Now The type 3 $1 gold...that's a beauty. Plus I ...well lets see a better image of the reverse.
     
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